Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

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Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by 01602697 » Tue May 03, 2016 7:12 pm

I finally got a sleep study done, but could not sleep that much. During my short sleep the tech woke me up and put me on a machine probably because I had events. The mask and chinstrap hurt my head way too much so I had him take it off and then couldn't sleep at all for the rest of the study. They called me and said the sleep study was inadequate because of my poor sleep so they gave me an ResMed S9 AirCurve 10 VAuto with a full face mask since I'm a mouth breather.

I only get to try it for 3 days and I have to turn it back in so they can read the card.

Do you guys think 3 days is enough to see if CPAP works for me?

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Post by The Wet Weenie » Tue May 03, 2016 7:50 pm

Three weeks isn't going to do it. I fought my mask for a month before I finally found a happy meeting of the minds. I would lay in bed wide awake waiting for my 4 hours to pass by so I could rip that thing off my face. Fighting the timer clock, the air pressure and air leaks blowing the mask off my face, the machines noises, and just the plain old resentment that I was being forced to do this, made for a lousy nights sleep. Then one day someone just happened to help adjust my face mask to a better fit, and now I actually look forward to using it. I'm sleeping more hours and more peacefully now than I ever have, even before the machine. A lot of the problems seemed to be my attitude. BUT, in all fairness, it has also created a world of bigger and more serious problems that I sincerely hope you don't experience. Give it a little more of that old college effort.

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Post by LSAT » Tue May 03, 2016 7:58 pm

The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it. I fought my mask for a month before I finally found a happy meeting of the minds. I would lay in bed wide awake waiting for my 4 hours to pass by so I could rip that thing off my face. Fighting the timer clock, the air pressure and air leaks blowing the mask off my face, the machines noises, and just the plain old resentment that I was being forced to do this, made for a lousy nights sleep. Then one day someone just happened to help adjust my face mask to a better fit, and now I actually look forward to using it. I'm sleeping more hours and more peacefully now than I ever have, even before the machine. A lot of the problems seemed to be my attitude. BUT, in all fairness, it has also created a world of bigger and more serious problems that I sincerely hope you don't experience. Give it a little more of that old college effort.
This post sounds a LOT different than the one you posted 30 minutes before......Did things change that much in 30 minutes?
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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by KayakKid » Tue May 03, 2016 8:00 pm

The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it.
Not 3 weeks, 3 DAYS, which is certainly not going to do it. I'm on 4 months and still adjusting.

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Post by palerider » Tue May 03, 2016 8:06 pm

KayakKid wrote:
The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it.
Not 3 weeks, 3 DAYS, which is certainly not going to do it. I'm on 4 months and still adjusting.
three days is plenty time to see if he's got apnea, which was inconclusive in the sleep study

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Post by Guest » Tue May 03, 2016 8:48 pm

palerider wrote:
KayakKid wrote:
The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it.
Not 3 weeks, 3 DAYS, which is certainly not going to do it. I'm on 4 months and still adjusting.
three days is plenty time to see if he's got apnea, which was inconclusive in the sleep study
I wouldn't say completely inconclusive, right? since the tech woke me up and put me on a machine, which I think they only do for people who show apnea

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Post by cancun » Tue May 03, 2016 9:57 pm

Guest wrote:
palerider wrote:
KayakKid wrote:
The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it.
Not 3 weeks, 3 DAYS, which is certainly not going to do it. I'm on 4 months and still adjusting.
three days is plenty time to see if he's got apnea, which was inconclusive in the sleep study
I wouldn't say completely inconclusive, right? since the tech woke me up and put me on a machine, which I think they only do for people who show apnea
I believe they will use the information from loaning you the machine for the three days as the titration as well to decide what pressure or range of pressures for you to use and provide that information to your doctor so he/she can write the prescription to give to the DME to get your own machine.

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by PleaseHelp111 » Tue May 03, 2016 10:27 pm

cancun wrote:
Guest wrote:
palerider wrote:
KayakKid wrote:
The Wet Weenie wrote:Three weeks isn't going to do it.
Not 3 weeks, 3 DAYS, which is certainly not going to do it. I'm on 4 months and still adjusting.
three days is plenty time to see if he's got apnea, which was inconclusive in the sleep study
I wouldn't say completely inconclusive, right? since the tech woke me up and put me on a machine, which I think they only do for people who show apnea
I believe they will use the information from loaning you the machine for the three days as the titration as well to decide what pressure or range of pressures for you to use and provide that information to your doctor so he/she can write the prescription to give to the DME to get your own machine.
ok. do these settings look good for the first night?

Max IPAP : 25.0
Min EPAP : 6.0
PS: 2.0
TI Max : 2.0s
TI Min : 0.3s
Trigger: Med
Cycle: Med
Ramp Time Off
Humidity Level 4

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by cancun » Tue May 03, 2016 10:57 pm

I believe they will use the information from loaning you the machine for the three days as the titration as well to decide what pressure or range of pressures for you to use and provide that information to your doctor so he/she can write the prescription to give to the DME to get your own machine.[/quote]

ok. do these settings look good for the first night?

Max IPAP : 25.0
Min EPAP : 6.0
PS: 2.0
TI Max : 2.0s
TI Min : 0.3s
Trigger: Med
Cycle: Med
Ramp Time Off
Humidity Level 4[/quote]

Did they preset those for you?
I can't help at all with this machine I do not use that type of machine and am surprised they didn't you a regular CPAP auto machine. Hopefully someone will come along who has or knows that type of machine.

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by Pugsy » Tue May 03, 2016 11:08 pm

Those settings appear to be settings that are available on the ResMed bilevel machines.
Decent settings to start with. PS of 3 or 4 might be a tad more comfortable but 2 isn't bad.

It starts out at 6 EPAP (exhale) and with PS of 2 that means the IPAP (inhale pressure) will be 8 but it could go to 25 (which probably would be a disaster but it's not all that likely that OP will need that high of a pressure on inhale.
If it goes to 25 than means exhale would be 23 (if PS is 2) and that's why I think it would be a disaster. Going to feel like a tornado is in there.

Those are decent settings to start with to try auto titration for pressure needs unless you happen to be unlucky enough to really need some higher pressures and if that happened the changes might potentially wake you up.
Cross that bridge when/if you need to. Should that happen than that PS of 3 or 4 I mentioned above might really be useful.

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by cancun » Tue May 03, 2016 11:12 pm

Pugsy wrote:Those settings appear to be settings that are available on the ResMed bilevel machines.
Decent settings to start with. PS of 3 or 4 might be a tad more comfortable but 2 isn't bad.

It starts out at 6 EPAP (exhale) and with PS of 2 that means the IPAP (inhale pressure) will be 8 but it could go to 25 (which probably would be a disaster but it's not all that likely that OP will need that high of a pressure on inhale.
If it goes to 25 than means exhale would be 23 (if PS is 2) and that's why I think it would be a disaster. Going to feel like a tornado is in there.

Those are decent settings to start with to try auto titration for pressure needs unless you happen to be unlucky enough to really need some higher pressures and if that happened the changes might potentially wake you up.
Cross that bridge when/if you need to. Should that happen than that PS of 3 or 4 I mentioned above might really be useful.
Thanks Pugsy, I couldn't help with that at all! I don't know anything about those bi level machines. It is the ResMed S9 AirCurve 10 VAuto .
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Post by Pugsy » Tue May 03, 2016 11:25 pm

cancun wrote:It is the ResMed S9 AirCurve 10 VAuto .
With PS being mentioned as 2 cm I am thinking probably S9 VPAP Auto but might be the AirCurve...I don't remember if the AirCurve offers a minimum and maximum PS in auto mode or not and I am going to bed now and too lazy to look it up. The S9 VPAP autos only had fixed PS even in auto mode. I had one of those.
I am also thinking a DME would most likely loan out an old S9 VPAP Auto and not a brand new AirCurve...but maybe they are really nice.

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Post by palerider » Tue May 03, 2016 11:57 pm

Pugsy wrote:Those settings appear to be settings that are available on the ResMed bilevel machines.
Decent settings to start with. PS of 3 or 4 might be a tad more comfortable but 2 isn't bad.

It starts out at 6 EPAP (exhale) and with PS of 2 that means the IPAP (inhale pressure) will be 8 but it could go to 25 (which probably would be a disaster but it's not all that likely that OP will need that high of a pressure on inhale.
If it goes to 25 than means exhale would be 23 (if PS is 2) and that's why I think it would be a disaster. Going to feel like a tornado is in there.
I figured a ps of 2 would be 'reasonable'... don't want to spoil him with too much, in case they don't want to rx a bilevel

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by palerider » Tue May 03, 2016 11:58 pm

cancun wrote: It is the ResMed S9 AirCurve 10 VAuto .
the S9 and aircurve 10 are two different machine lines.

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Re: Got a sleep study, but it didn't go well.

Post by cancun » Wed May 04, 2016 10:26 am

palerider wrote:
cancun wrote: It is the ResMed S9 AirCurve 10 VAuto .
the S9 and aircurve 10 are two different machine lines.
I believe you, that is what the OP wrote in his original post. I don't know the difference! I have only had one machine. I know they used a BiPap on me in the hospital but insurance wouldn't approve one for home use.

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