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Another Resistance Control question

Post by Roboski » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:02 am

Hi everyone. Writing this question (too quickly) as I have to go out the door shortly. That and the fact that I have little technical expertise means I am hoping for an easy answer to a complicated (?) question. Has anyone determined what Respironics System One resistance control setting is appropriate for a F&P Simplus Full Face Mask? And just for fun here is a bonus question: when I first got my fixed CPAP pressure machine many years ago (also a System One), my doctor advised me to not use the white disposable filter because it, in his mind, interfered with the air flow. Now that I have an auto machine, will the machine compensate for any real or imagined reduction in air flow caused by that filter?

Thanks in advance for everyone's help, I know I need to spend more time here getting edu-micated, as I think Popeye said.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by BlackSpinner » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:07 am

Your doctor graduated at the bottom of his engineering class

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by Roboski » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:53 am

I think I did see a DeVry diploma on his wall, but one would think any amount of filtration would decrease air flow, right? But are our CPAP machines so brilliantly engineered to take that into account when providing optimum air flow? Once again, I am a Underwater Basket weaving type of guy, but his assertion does not seem to be completely without merit. That's why I asked.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by richart » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:29 pm

I definitely like using the white disposable filter during allergy season (which is in full blossom here in Georgia). I don't think they interfere with flow as long as they are changed before they become clogged.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by Julie » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:38 pm

The filters are used to keep the inside of the machine clean, but more so to keep your insides cleaner - the white ones are more often used by those with allergies e.g. to dust, and the machine is perfectly able to deliver all the therapy air you need, filter or no filter. You're worrying about the 'wrong' thing entirely. Your doctor is sadly uninformed/uneducated and though may understand something of the science of OSA, obviously has no clue when it comes to equipment and/or therapy.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by poppi2 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:36 pm

For some discussions on your first question, do a Google search with the following: site:www.cpaptalk.com resistance control pugsy

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by palerider » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:20 pm

Roboski wrote:I think I did see a DeVry diploma on his wall, but one would think any amount of filtration would decrease air flow, right? But are our CPAP machines so brilliantly engineered to take that into account when providing optimum air flow? Once again, I am a Underwater Basket weaving type of guy, but his assertion does not seem to be completely without merit. That's why I asked.
airflow, and pressure, are measured *after* the filter, so they have no effect whatsoever on the final delivered pressure.
his assertion is completely without merit.

use system one resistance setting x1, all the resprionics ffm use a setting of x1

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by TonyG » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:03 pm

palerider wrote:
Roboski wrote:I think I did see a DeVry diploma on his wall, but one would think any amount of filtration would decrease air flow, right? But are our CPAP machines so brilliantly engineered to take that into account when providing optimum air flow? Once again, I am a Underwater Basket weaving type of guy, but his assertion does not seem to be completely without merit. That's why I asked.
airflow, and pressure, are measured *after* the filter, so they have no effect whatsoever on the final delivered pressure.
his assertion is completely without merit.

use system one resistance setting x1, all the resprionics ffm use a setting of x1
Phillips says if its not one of their masks the setting should be left at 0.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:30 pm

TonyG wrote: Phillips says if its not one of their masks the setting should be left at 0.
That is the correct answer.


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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by palerider » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:31 pm

TonyG wrote:
palerider wrote:
Roboski wrote:I think I did see a DeVry diploma on his wall, but one would think any amount of filtration would decrease air flow, right? But are our CPAP machines so brilliantly engineered to take that into account when providing optimum air flow? Once again, I am a Underwater Basket weaving type of guy, but his assertion does not seem to be completely without merit. That's why I asked.
airflow, and pressure, are measured *after* the filter, so they have no effect whatsoever on the final delivered pressure.
his assertion is completely without merit.

use system one resistance setting x1, all the resprionics ffm use a setting of x1
Phillips says if its not one of their masks the setting should be left at 0.
because they don't care enough to figure out appropriate settings for other masks.

it's all about the resistance specs published in the backs of the manuals. if you want the small advantage the resistance setting gives, then figure out which philips mask your mask best corresponds to. and, like I said, all FFM masks are x1.

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Re: Another Resistance Control question

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:28 pm

(5) REMstar Autos w/C-Flex & (6) REMstar Pro 2 CPAPs w/C-Flex - Pressure Setting = 14 cm.
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