Views on vaping and electronic cigarettes

[sleepyhead6867]

What are your thoughts on vaping and electronic cigarettes as an alternative to traditional cigarettes. Using them to keep me off cigarettes but never sure if they are safe to use with regards to the sleep apnoea and lung issues.

[Julie]

If you're using some kind of nicotine in them, what's the point? You're kidding yourself and from what I've read they can be more dangerous (bad for you) than regular cigs. And you'll never quit, just get hooked on vaporers.

[sleepyhead6867]

I try to switch between nicotine and 0 nicotine does keep me off regular cigarettes though

[Julie]

Nicotine's nicotine... what diff. does it make if it's in cigarettes or porridge? Yes you avoid other chemicals, but you're still an addict.

[cancun]

What are your thoughts on vaping and electronic cigarettes as an alternative to traditional cigarettes. Using them to keep me off cigarettes but never sure if they are safe to use with regards to the sleep apnoea and lung issues.

Ask your doctor what he/she thinks, there still isn't enough information and research on yet but you are getting less chemicals and if you are using them as a goal to get off the cigarettes and your use of them is temporary I would say they are better than the cigarettes. Have you tried using the patch, I know that is nicotine as well but it is a step down program. There is also hypnosis.

[palerider]

Nicotine's nicotine... what diff. does it make if it's in cigarettes or porridge? Yes you avoid other chemicals, but you're still an addict.

isn't that a bit harsh?

yes, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances, that plus the habits of smoking make it very hard to quit, but people do quit by getting their nicotine from other sources, and tapering off over time.

[Mudrock63]

My view is it is too early to tell long-term side effects.....BUT as a strategy to quit cigarettes......and we know what long-term effects THOSE have.....it's worth a shot. I think if you end up vaping long-term you will end up with problems. But I am not a doctor.

[sleepyhead6867]

Have tried patches in the past didn't help much and made me itch like crazy. So far the electronic cigarettes or vapourizors especially have had the most success in helping me stay off the evil cigarettes.

[Julie]

You're right, it sounds harsh, but I also believe it and I believe all the stuff you can buy to try and quit is junk, because the only way to quit is to quit, not introduce some other form of nicotine. You don't have to quit overnight, you can taper down over time, as long as you keep going until you're off completely, but I don't believe the answer is more nicotine, and I do believe addiction is addiction, whether it's about cigs or smack or crack.

[GettingBetter]

My one year smoke free anniversary is Feb 17th. I have been off the ciggs for almost a year.

What ever it takes, do it. I quit using the I'm-in-the-hospital-with-an-arterial-blockage-I-can't-breathe-and-I-will-die-soon-if-I-don't-do-something-now method of quitting. It is a pretty motivational method. I didn't use patches, but that doesn't mean any part of it was easy or that I recommend that level of fear for anyone. This is your quitting story and you get to write your ending.

You have to really want it, no matter the vape or patches or gum. YOU. HAVE. TO. WANT. THIS. Until that happens, forget it, it won't work.

Also remember this is an addiction and that addiction thinking will creep into your head. I'm talking about stupid, no good thinking where you "reward" yourself with a cigarette. Nicotine is a drug and you are an addict just like me.

I haven't had any cravings for the past year and I have no intention of ever smoking again. I hope you can say the same next year.

[Cowboy Casey]

So, I have done major research and long term study on this

My wife and I had our last cigarette Dec 2010, I was smoking 3 packs a day and my wife was at 2 packs.... My oxygen levels when I went to the hospital were between 84% to 90%, not very good....

we have been vaping for 5 years now, I love it, we are down to 2MG nicotine from 24mg when we started... I don't hack constantly, we don't have any more chest congestion, and just "feel" better.. I can smell again and taste everything again also... I can smell a smoker from 50 feet away now....

The last time I went to the doctor my oxygen level went between 99% and 100%

There are so many conflicting reports and now there are so many options it hard to know what to do, so here is some info

Do not get any vape that looks like a cig, like blu or anything you can buy in a grocery store, those are the one that are bad, they come from china and you have no idea what is in them...

go to a vape shop and ask them for help, they are awesome... find a shop where you feel comfortable with the employee's, some shops are for cloud vaping "the new in thing" It is not cheap to start out.. it will cost you at least 200 to start out but the cost goes down from there.. it will still cost about 50 bucks a month for juice and atomizers...

It works!!! Almost all the ads and reports you see and read are coming from the governments and big tobacco companies... you should be asking yourself why they would want to stop something that is working??? Because the are losing billions of dollars a year in tax revenue, cigarette sales and medical costs...

If you are not sick, not smoking and not paying taxes on both they are not making money, and they are against anything that takes money from them...

Do yourself a favor and switch, you will feel better within 2 weeks....

I did not start this to quite smoking, I like nicotine, it works for us... I just did not want the 4000 or so chemicals they put in every cigarette now, 26 of those chemicals are KNOWN to cause cancer... I wanted something that I knew exactly what was in it...

[OkyDoky]

I found this webinar interesting. There are other chemicals in the EC's. Not something I would want to do long term. http://www.trdrp.org/files/e-cigarettes ... slides.pdf

[Stormynights]

I totally agree with Cowboy Casey. He is spot on. I quit with a ecigarette and I tried everything else to quit without any results. Years of smoking and trying to quit. After I quit I had chest xrays and tests for my lungs and two different doctors said my lungs were fine. I had a battle with DVT and part of the blood clot went into my lungs and I got damage from that still ended up on 02. People that have never smoked have no idea how hard it is to quit. They think you just lay them down and that is it. I tried hypnosis, patches and everything else and they never worked for me. I went from 36mg of nicotine to 0 before I quit. I don't understand why so many people are against ecigs if they really want people to quit. What does it hurt if it works? Why would that hurt other people? I hear so much negativity and I just don't understand it at all. Here is something that works so what is wrong with that?

[sleepyhead6867]

Not getting into the anti vaping argument if it helps with quitting analogues is all that matters. apart from different nicotine strengths there's also 0% nicotine or very low strength. think the point of having nicotine is to mimic the throat hit you would get from a real cigarette. there's also bionic which has no nicotine at all some very nice flavours. guess all i wanted to know is if it not only would effect lung disorders like copd or sleep apnoea.

[Cowboy Casey]

I found this webinar interesting. There are other chemicals in the EC's. Not something I would want to do long term. http://www.trdrp.org/files/e-cigarettes ... slides.pdf

Those are the exact models NOT to get, they are correct, you do not know exactly what you are getting...

I have made my own juice for 4 years now and know exactly what I put in mine... Go to a Vape shop and watch them make it so you know exactly what they are using... if it looks like a cig DO NOT BUY IT....