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DreamWear Mask

Post by gasp » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:49 pm

After months I still love this mask. I feel so confident that I gathered up my intensely over used ComfortLite 2 and tossed it all out in the garbage. I did have a wee moment of gratitude for all the years of good service from that model of mask.

No, zero, marks on my face. No tugging on nose. No waking up to leak noise. No complaining husband my mask is noisey. Small and travels easily.

And best of all, my numbers are good. 90 days AHI is .7, and leak median 0.0/95th 8.4/max 18.

Yay!

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by Gene20354 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:14 pm

I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:36 pm

Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
does it enclose your nose? (nasal) or rest on the nostrils (nasal pillow)

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by gasp » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:49 pm

palerider wrote:
Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
does it enclose your nose? (nasal) or rest on the nostrils (nasal pillow)
The mask is essentially a one piece tube. It sits just under the nares and the slit goes horizontal delivering air to both nares through a single slit. To me it's so much less bothersome than having to seat pillows, just right, into the nares or have leaks. All I have to do with this mask, is gently adjust the mask cushion under my nose and it seals, silently delivering air. For me it's so silent sometimes I lift off the cushion to see if air is actually coming through.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by RogerSC » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
Dreamwear is a nasal mask.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:25 pm

gasp wrote:
palerider wrote:
Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
does it enclose your nose? (nasal) or rest on the nostrils (nasal pillow)
The mask is essentially a one piece tube. It sits just under the nares and the slit goes horizontal delivering air to both nares through a single slit. To me it's so much less bothersome than having to seat pillows, just right, into the nares or have leaks. All I have to do with this mask, is gently adjust the mask cushion under my nose and it seals, silently delivering air. For me it's so silent sometimes I lift off the cushion to see if air is actually coming through.
I'm aware, my answer was more along the lines of trying to lead Gene to figuring out which would be most appropriate, for himself... if it were me, I'd use pillows, since it's not an over the nose thing.

to get the best answer, though, you'd have to go and check the resistance of the dreamware and compare it with several pillow masks and several nasal masks, and see which it matches up with better.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:26 pm

RogerSC wrote:
Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
Dreamwear is a nasal mask.
seems more of a pillow thing to me, why do you pick 'nasal'?

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by Gene20354 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:52 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to try starting with "pillows" tonight.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by gasp » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:54 pm

The Respironics site says this is a nasal pillows mask. I chose the nasal pillows setting on my ResMed S9 auto.

https://www.sleepapnea.com/products/mas ... rview.html

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:09 pm

When I did the month long trial with the DreamWear I just left the S9 setting on nasal pillows (what I normally use) and actually never gave it a second thought. To me it is a nasal pillow type of mask as the airflow is more direct than a nasal cushion type of mask...but that's just my thoughts.

I don't think it is something that is a make it or break it choice. It might affect the baseline leak a tiny bit (or it might not) but if it does it isn't something that is a huge deal.

Not long ago I tested the Amara View (which is a full face hybrid type) with and without the correct choice being made in the mask selection menu and with the nasal pillow mask choice being made I saw maybe a 2 to 3 L/min difference in the baseline leak. It showed a little more baseline leak with the nasal pillow choice than it did with the "correct" choice. Which sort of goes along with what we have been told by ResMed in that the mask choice is there mainly for leak computation.
I was actually surprised that the difference was so slight as I would have thought it would have been greater.

It might make a difference if someone is continually skirting large leak territory all night long for some reason but that would be about the extent of whether I would worry about leak being a tiny bit off due to mask choice.
It's not like it is 10 to 15 L/min different...it's more like 2 to 3 between nasal pillows and full face mask and I suspect with the DreamWear that the difference between nasal and nasal pillow probably is barely measurable.

As far as actually comparing resistance...way more work than I feel needs to be done so I won't be doing it. The Amara View mask choice experiment showed me it wasn't that big of a deal.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by gasp » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:19 pm

Good point! And after giving it some thought, if the machine was made where different mask type settings did produce distinctive measurable difference, then the actual data would be more complex.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by RogerSC » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:37 pm

palerider wrote:
RogerSC wrote:
Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
Dreamwear is a nasal mask.
seems more of a pillow thing to me, why do you pick 'nasal'?
Because I think of the air coming from the inside of the nose for a nasal pillow mask, and from the outside for a nasal mask. But I'm apparently outvoted, so bow to the wisdom of the majority *smile*. I'm nothing if not a democratic kind of guy *smile*.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:56 pm

RogerSC wrote:
palerider wrote:
RogerSC wrote:
Gene20354 wrote:I just got this mask in the mail today. I hope I have the same luck as you do! I have a question about the settings on my Resmed Airsense 10. In the settings section for mask type should I use Nasal or Nasal Pillow for the DreamWear?
Dreamwear is a nasal mask.
seems more of a pillow thing to me, why do you pick 'nasal'?
Because I think of the air coming from the inside of the nose for a nasal pillow mask, and from the outside for a nasal mask. But I'm apparently outvoted, so bow to the wisdom of the majority *smile*. I'm nothing if not a democratic kind of guy *smile*.
I'm just mainly guessing... in my view, after looking up the resistance numbers of a dozen or so different masks, all the nasal pillow masks had much more resistance to flow (listed in the spec sheets) than nasal masks, and ffms had the least... so that's what I'd look at, if I had to choose. I was just curious.

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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by OkyDoky » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:01 pm

PR, I found that the Dreamwear had system resistance X1 and so did the Wisp nasal mask. So possibly nasal?
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Re: DreamWear Mask

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:23 pm

OkyDoky wrote:PR, I found that the Dreamwear had system resistance X1 and so did the Wisp nasal mask. So possibly nasal?
well, x1 is their generic setting... so... maybe?

I'd really have to be motivated to look up the numbers in the manual, and compare it to some resmed masks to get an idea.

while I believe that the mask type setting has an effect on the final delivered pressure in your mask, I do think it's a smaller effect than say hose type or length, or whether there's an AB filter in the line.

I've started conducting some informal experiments with a differential manometer, measuring pressure at the back of the humidifer and at the mask, with a 10 foot hose and an ab filter, I'm seeing up to 6cm more pressure at the back of the machine than at the mask, during inhalation, and around .1 more pressure during exhalation, that's at 18/13 pressure settings.

so while the mask is measuring 13 to 18cm, at the back of the machine I'm getting 13 to 23. compensation for resistance of the hose and filter. I haven't tried changing mask settings yet, but it's on the list of things to do

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