Ramp time

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Ramp time

Post by seeing you » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:59 pm

Tell me ramp time when I go to change it you can go from 45 to 5 is that the time it takes to come into effect I would like for my air flow to start sooner now it is on auto ramp ?

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Re: Ramp time

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:06 pm

seeing you wrote:Tell me ramp time when I go to change it you can go from 45 to 5 is that the time it takes to come into effect I would like for my air flow to start sooner now it is on auto ramp ?
Yes, when turned on and configured, that's the time it takes for the starting air pressure to "ramp up" to the prescribed air pressure.

You can change it or turn it off.
You didn't say what machine you have, but many .pdf manuals are available to make whatever settings you may need or wish to make.
According to the polls taken on the forum over the years, the vast majority of users either never use it or turn it off soon into their therapy use. I've never used it. I like the full air pressure when my machine starts.


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Re: Ramp time

Post by Susie Kay » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:08 pm

I want to piggy back a question. I have never used ramp, but am considering it. If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?

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Re: Ramp time

Post by LSAT » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:10 pm

Susie Kay wrote:I want to piggy back a question. I have never used ramp, but am considering it. If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?
Depends on your machine...But, if you have not been using it, why start now?

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Re: Ramp time

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:11 pm

Susie Kay wrote:I want to piggy back a question. I have never used ramp, but am considering it. If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?
Depends on which machine you're talking about. (from my understanding from previous discussions)
There were some fairly recent discussions about that and I can't remember the thread at the moment.


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Re: Ramp time

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:13 pm

LSAT wrote:
Susie Kay wrote:I want to piggy back a question. I have never used ramp, but am considering it. If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?
Depends on your machine...But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
And, I agree with LSAT on this, too.


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Re: Ramp time

Post by Susie Kay » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:13 pm

It's ResMed S9 AutoSet.

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Post by Susie Kay » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:15 pm

LSAT wrote:But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
Wulfman... wrote: I agree with LSAT on this, too.
You two are PIAs. Cranky, old, retired men with not enough to do. You think whatever you like, everyone else should like.

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Re: Ramp time

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:31 pm

Susie Kay wrote:
LSAT wrote:But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
Wulfman... wrote: I agree with LSAT on this, too.
You two are PIAs. Cranky, old, retired men with not enough to do. You think whatever you like, everyone else should like.

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And YOU are apparently too friggin' lazy to do any searching for yourself. You just want the "old retired men" who have nothing to do other than help lazy newbies look up answers to simple questions........

viewtopic/t108529/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... s#p1032675

There are more threads and posts if you bother to look, but that's a recent one.

Have a nice day.


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Re: Ramp time

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:41 pm

Susie Kay wrote:If my airway starts to collapse while ramp is running, does the machine respond with increases in pressure?
Here is what the S9 AutoSet clinician's manual says,
Ramp time defines the period during which the pressure gradually increases from a lower more
comfortable start pressure to the minimum AutoSet pressure before the auto-adjusting algorithm
commences. In previous products in the AutoSet range, settling was the period where the device was at
a minimum AutoSet pressure until the auto-adjusting algorithm commenced.
So your model machine will not respond to airway problems during the ramp period.

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Re: Ramp time

Post by WindCpap » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:01 pm

Autoramp rocks. If you aren't getting enough air, it is because your ramp pressure is set too low. Try setting it a little higher. Your airway won't collapse before you fall asleep, and the autoramp really does work to ramp up to pressure when you do.

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Re: Ramp time

Post by PoolQ » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:42 pm

There are several things being talked about here:
1. autoset-happens after the ramp time and adjusts pressure as needed to try and prevent apnea's
2. Ramp time- this feature has a start pressure that is NOT your treatment pressure and the time set for ramp determines how long the machine takes to go from this start pressure to your minimum treatment pressure. This start pressure needs to be set for what is comfortable for you, so you feel like you are getting enough air.
3. autoramp- at least for the A10 model this feature detects when you have fallen asleep and then starts to ramp quickly to your minimum treatment pressure. During this sleep detection phase you will be at the start pressure. The system uses three criteria to determine when you fall asleep- if you snore, 30 regular consistent breaths, or if you have a flow limit.

There has been much talk about just what the machine will or will not do during ramp. The manuals say nothing about it. Resmed does have a patent that says they can decrease the ramp time, by speeding up the pressure increase if they detect a flow limit during ramp. I personally have seen this happen once on my A10. Usually the ramp is just a straight line from start pressure to minimum therapy pressure. On one sleephead graph the ramp line had a dog leg in it indicating that the time to therapy pressure had been decreased (a faster rise in pressure).
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Re: Ramp time

Post by LSAT » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:00 pm

Susie Kay wrote:
LSAT wrote:But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
Wulfman... wrote: I agree with LSAT on this, too.
You two are PIAs. Cranky, old, retired men with not enough to do. You think whatever you like, everyone else should like.

Raspberries

Not raspberries.....sour grapes

Talk about a PIA...You have been on this board since May and have not figured out that it's important to fill your equipment in your profile. If you had done this we would not have needed to reply the way we did and request that you tell us what equipment you are using. Obviously you don't understand what the "search" at the top of the page is for either. I guess you will need to keep relying on the "cranky old men" to guide you.

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Re: Ramp time

Post by Goofproof » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:49 pm

Susie Kay wrote:
LSAT wrote:But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
Wulfman... wrote: I agree with LSAT on this, too.
You two are PIAs. Cranky, old, retired men with not enough to do. You think whatever you like, everyone else should like.

Raspberries
Make that three.

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Re: Ramp time

Post by Lucyhere » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:15 pm

Susie Kay wrote:
LSAT wrote:But, if you have not been using it, why start now?
Wulfman... wrote: I agree with LSAT on this, too.
You two are PIAs. Cranky, old, retired men with not enough to do. You think whatever you like, everyone else should like.

Raspberries

Wellllll, I'm a women, not THAT old, and cranky only some times. Actually, the ramp made me uncomfortable and I turned it off rather quickly. I'd rather settle in with the same pressures I'll use all night. That said, if you feel more comfortable using the ramp, by all means, use it. No one should dictate what's right for you.
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