For Sale - ResMed S9 AutoSet - Used Only 1 Month

[cowgirlcullen]

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[Drowsy Dancer]

I am just new to sleeping with a CPAP and didn't like it, nor did I notice any benefits from it. I understand that this happens in about 30% of the people, and unfortunately I am one of those people. Therefore, I don't really need this machine

Wait wait wait.

Did you have a sleep study? What was your untreated AHI?

What pressure were you prescribed? Did you get a machine that had wide open settings?

When you say you "didn't like it," what does that mean? Are you aware that the benefits can take time to manifest themselves?

I'd rather see you make another go at the machine than sell it, although, sadly, people selling near-new machines is really not unusual.

[cowgirlcullen]

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[zoocrewphoto]

Yes I had a sleep study. Not sure what an AHI is. My doctor looked at my data from the machine and said that I averaged a 6.3 in pressure as it auto adjusts the pressure to the minimum amount that you need. And from what I understand that is a pretty low pressure. I have pretty mild apnea from what the doctor told me after looking at my sleep study data.

AHI is the average amount of events per hour. For example, my untreated ahi is 79, so without cpap, I average 79 breathing events per hour, more than one a minute. Those, by definition, last at least 10 seconds long. You will also want to know how long your events tend to be. My mom can stop breathing for over a minute at a time. And you want to know how low your oxygen saturation was going. Normal is 96-100%. For a sleep apnea diagnosis, they usually look for numbers below 88%. Some people get down in the 60s. Very scary.

Keep in mind that sleep apnea is more than sleep disturbances. It is about oxygen deprivation, so each time you stop breathing, your brain, heart, liver, kidneys, etc are all being deprived of oxygen. Add in the adrenaline to force you to breathe again, and now you have hormones causing more damage to your heart. I am only 42, and I was warned at age 36 that my blood pressure was too high, even with medication, and I was at a higher risk of stroke. That particular doctor never bothered to ask me how I slept, so I wasn't diagnosed until I was 39. I knew for over 10 years that I had sleep apnea, but I didn't realize how dangerous it was or that it was the cause of my high blood pressure. I wish I had gotten serious about treatment then as I might not require the medications I do now.

Your auto machine is probably set wide open. Many doctors do not realize that while that is useful for finding the right settings, it doesn't help as much as it could. For example, my pressure is set for a range of 11-17. It starts at 11, and spends most of the night between 11 and 13. It will occasionally go higher as needed, but usually for very short times. My ahi is always below 2, and usually below. So much better than 79. But if my machine were to be set wide open at 4-20, it would start at 4, wait for me to snore or have a flow limitation, and then slowly climb to 11 or whatever I need. When my breathing is better, it would go back down and then start over again. As it slowly goes up, events would continue to happen as it has to search for the right pressure. By setting it to start at 11, it prevents a ton of events from ever starting.

So, your machine should probably be set for at least 6 to start. Your machine has data, so you can see the data and make adjustments as needed. Ideally, you want it set at a pressure that will prevent a lot of events, so the machine doesn't have a delay in treating you.

It is also possible that a wide range of pressures can disturb your sleep. Some people can sleep through all those changes (like me), and others will be bothered by any change in pressure, but may not wake up enough to realize that is the problem. It is also important to have a well fitted mask. I can sleep through those pressure changes, but a tiny little hiss from the mask, and I can't sleep.

Please give you the forum (and your machine) a chance. The doctors are pretty much useless in helping you adjust to the machine and get your settings ideal for YOU. But here, people have been there, done that, and can really help you get it right for you. Some people take longer to see benefits, but it is worth it in the long run. Some of my improvements were noticeable in the first couple weeks (fewer bathroom trips, nightmares gone, no more choking/gasping fits, less grumpy, etc). Other improvements took longer (feel more energy, blood pressure improving, falling asleep faster sleeping 4+ hours straight (sometimes 7+), fewer colds, etc)

[crashman2600]

I thought I would chime in on this as well. I am really new to CPAP just like you. My AHI was 85 and my desat was 63% which as zoocrew said is pretty darn scary. CPAP isn't easy and you may not feel the effects right away. I was one of the lucky ones who did notice an immediately difference. You will want to make your own adjustments, I was prescribed a continuous pressure of 16 but it felt way too high so I set my machine to auto and played with the minimum pressure until it was comfortable. I ended up on Autoset from 11-16, my average is 12.1 and my AHI is now 0.2. I am still struggling with keeping it on the whole night but I know every hour I have it on my body is thanking me for it.

As zoocrew said, give it a chance. You may not feel anything but your body will get healthier as time goes on.

[Guest]

I would like to point out this is an extremely dangerous (as in risky) way to buy anything on the internet...

Lastly, regarding the payment method, I will accept payment via Google Wallet, which is free for both parties. Or, you can just mail me a check or money order. I know that it may seem risky to buy something this way but I did check into it and you would definitely have recourse by calling the local sheriff and filing a complaint of fraud.

Don't believe me, call your sheriff before you call Jennifer. Today it is dangerous even meeting face to face. So if you have money you don't want send it to me.

[herefishy]

Be sure you really own this machine, as insurance usually doesn't make a one time payment, if that is how you got your machine. You might end up making monthly payments for the rest of your days.

[zoocrewphoto]

I would like to point out this is an extremely dangerous (as in risky) way to buy anything on the internet...

Lastly, regarding the payment method, I will accept payment via Google Wallet, which is free for both parties. Or, you can just mail me a check or money order. I know that it may seem risky to buy something this way but I did check into it and you would definitely have recourse by calling the local sheriff and filing a complaint of fraud.

Don't believe me, call your sheriff before you call Jennifer. Today it is dangerous even meeting face to face. So if you have money you don't want send it to me.

True. The only electronic payments I will accept are paypal and credit card through my vendor merchant account. I would not accept a check without waiting at least a week for it to clear.

I do meet people face to face to buy and sell things, but always in public places where there are bound to be other people and usually cameras as well. I often have people come to my work place (grocery store) as it means not having to go and wait for a possible no show. My work place is easy to get to, lots of cameras, I feel safe, and they know where to find me, so they know they can trust me not to scam them.

I have bought a cpap machine, laptop computer, and a nice camera - all at a Starbucks. They have outlets, so I can test electrical equipment. And the locations are public and busy. I buy a hot chocolate so that I am purchasing something.

I do have an expensive item I am trying to sell right now, and I am hoping they will either come to my work place or agree to meet at a bank, preferably a credit union. They could withdraw the cash, and I could deposit, all in a highly monitored place. Nobody would have to walk around with the cash either. The other option is them checking out the item, making a paypal payment with their phone, and me verifying it in my account on my phone. Again, no need to carry cash.

[LSAT]

Quote from cowgirlcullin..."This was in a non-smoking and pet-free home. There is nothing wrong with any of these items, I am just new to sleeping with a CPAP and didn't like it, nor did I notice any benefits from it. I understand that this happens in about 30% of the people, and unfortunately I am one of those people. Therefore, I don't really need this machine and so my loss is your gain."

I think you are mistaken...You do need this machine, you just are too stubborn to admit it.

[49er]

cowgirlcullen,

I also strong urge you to do whatever you can to make your pap therapy work. But if you are determined not to use a machine, please click on the link in my signature about dental devices as for mild apnea, they mostly have a 75% success rate in getting the AHI below 5.

Additionally, did the doctor say anything about whether positional therapy is an option for you which would mean sleeping on your back to keep your AHI below 5? Might be something to discuss with him/her.

But no matter, please do not ignore your apnea even though it is mild. Not use scare tactics but many times, cases of "mild apnea" can become worse without attention. You obviously don't want the health issues that are associated with that.

49er

Offered for sale as a package:

-ResMed S9 AutoSet CPAP machine in almost new condition with 285 hours/35 days use on it. ($724 on cpap.com)

-H5i heated humidifier with climate control. ($159 on cpap.com)

-Humidifier water tub, cleanable and dishwasher safe. This is not the standard tub that has to be replaced every 6 months. ($33 on cpap.com)

-Travel case with padded pockets made to fit this specific machine and humidifier with a separate storage compartment made to fit the tubes, masks, and accessories. In basically new condition, only used once. ($35 on cpap.com)

-AirFit P10 mask in brand new, completely unused condition and still in the box. ($99 on cpap.com)

-AirFit F10 mask in like new condition. Used for 35 days. ($149 on cpap.com)

-SD card ($15 on cpap.com)

-SlimLine hose ($32 on cpap.com)

-Manuals and power adapter

Photos of everything can be seen here:
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/jenni ... ccessories

To buy all of this new on cpap.com it would total $1,246. I'm just going to sell this whole package to whomever makes me the best offer since rarely does a new model like this in almost new condition rarely go for sale. You also would need to cover the cost of shipping, which would be $20 for the US, or the actual cost if international. As far as how long I'll wait for all offers to come in, probably a week or two. If you want to make an offer, please post it in this topic so that everyone can see what the current offer price is.

This was in a non-smoking and pet-free home. There is nothing wrong with any of these items, I am just new to sleeping with a CPAP and didn't like it, nor did I notice any benefits from it. I understand that this happens in about 30% of the people, and unfortunately I am one of those people. Therefore, I don't really need this machine and so my loss is your gain.

Lastly, regarding the payment method, I will accept payment via Google Wallet, which is free for both parties. Or, you can just mail me a check or money order. I know that it may seem risky to buy something this way but I did check into it and you would definitely have recourse by calling the local sheriff and filing a complaint of fraud. I certainly have no intention of getting into trouble with the law, so rest assured I will have no problem sending this item as described and promptly once payment is received.

If you have any questions you can post a reply, message me, or just give me a call. My name is Jennifer and my number is 406-850-8770. Thanks for your interest.

[BlackSpinner]

There is nothing wrong with any of these items, I am just new to sleeping with a CPAP and didn't like it, nor did I notice any benefits from it. I understand that this happens in about 30% of the people, and unfortunately I am one of those people. Therefore, I don't really need this machine and so my loss is your gain.

Yes you need this machine, otherwise you wouldn't have it and been told to use it.
In one month you may not notice the benefits however your organs did. You will, however, notice the effects of not using it eventually in the form of weight gain, mental problems, diabetes, high blood pressure, strokes and dementia. Your insurance may go up because you have increased you risks vastly. Depending on where you live you may lose your license. Remember most people don't notice the effect of their BP medication either.

I hope your partner will stay to change you adult diapers because it may not be a quick death.

[Krelvin]

This was in a non-smoking and pet-free home. There is nothing wrong with any of these items, I am just new to sleeping with a CPAP and didn't like it, nor did I notice any benefits from it. I understand that this happens in about 30% of the people, and unfortunately I am one of those people. Therefore, I don't really need this machine and so my loss is your gain.

1) Do you have proof of purchase for this machine? Unless you paid for it in full yourself, chances are you don't own it yet. Few insurance companies pay for the machine up front and require rental of the machine for a fixed period of time before it becomes "yours". That is unless you happened to pay for the machine out of hand in full yourself. Which would be strange because of...

2) Why would you have been given a CPAP machine if a sleep study didn't show you needed one? Hard to fathom that you tried it for 300 or so hours and decided on your own you really don't need it. Not sure where you got the 30% from.

With 285 hours on it for only one month of use, you are using it 9.5 hours a day.



Seems like your post on apneaboard was removed.

[RicaLynn]

Yes I had a sleep study. Not sure what an AHI is. My doctor looked at my data from the machine and said that I averaged a 6.3 in pressure as it auto adjusts the pressure to the minimum amount that you need. And from what I understand that is a pretty low pressure. I have pretty mild apnea from what the doctor told me after looking at my sleep study data.

As you can see from the responses you've already received, there are a great number of people who understand what you're going through and stand ready to help you. It's also clear from what I've quoted above that your doctor did a sorry job of educating you about your apnea AND your therapy. Even mild apnea causes damage over time (think "frog in a pot" -he won't notice the change in temperature till it's too late) and the pressure setting on the machine is NOT an indication of how severe your apnea is (that's why we asked for your AHI, that number is what tells the story). There are individuals better with severe apnea who only require 6-7cm to maintain their airway, and some with relatively mild apnea who need 18-20cm to prevent apneas.

[palerider]

(think "frog in a pot" -he won't notice the change in temperature till it's too late)

careful, our chunky is very sensitive to such talk.

[cowgirlcullen]

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