NoseBreathe Appliance

[Wideeyed]

Can anyone give me pros & cons of using above referenced device? Am new user desperately trying to overcome air coming out lips---even when mouth taped! Thanks in advance---new CPAP user since July 11, 2006.

[dsm]

People report mixed success with this device. I bought one & used it for a couple of nights - tried to modify it but then lost interest & filed it away with some other lost causes.

There are two people I know of who post here on how great it has been for them. I would guess that the failures outweigh the successes.

The device is a pliable material (soft) and not like a regular teethguard (hard).

It is intended to seal very tightly over the top teeth. It has a shelf or floor which is there for you to park your tongue on. Because the device seals so tightly, the theory is the tongue will stay locked (sucked) in place & prevent it slipping back & participating in an apnea event.

Dr Sue says it is a training aid to get people to stop mouth breathing.

Some people experience excessive saliva generation with it but that can actually diminish when one persists.

DSM

[rested gal]

Wideeyed, have you been taping over your entire mouth, or just putting one strip of tape on? If just one strip, how long a strip, and where have you been placing it? Horizontally? Vertically?

If you've been taping completely over your mouth, has a corner or edge of the tape been working loose, letting air out?

What brand/type of tape have you tried?

I have to use two strips placed horizontally and slightly overlapping each other -- making a patch that goes well above and below the closed lips, and extending it beyond the corners of the mouth.

Face needs to be freshly washed and dry just before applying the tape or it doesn't "stay stuck" as well all night.

You might want to think about making yourself one of the mouthguard things described in the link below...cheaper than the NoseBreathe, and could be even more effective if you can fashion it to suit you. After a lot of false starts, I've made several that absolutely prevented cpap air from detouring into my mouth.

The trick that works for me with a DIY mouthguard thingy is making it so it will keep the tongue shoved back far enough to block off the entrance from throat to the mouth, rather than trying to keep tongue held up against the roof of the mouth. I don't use tape when I'm using my "DIY" mouthguard. Either method works equally well for me.

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Topic started by frequenseeker Dec 01 2004 - mouth leak solution, cheap DIY oral appliance

[inacpapfog]

I also turned to the Nose Breathe device because of mouthleaking!
Yes, taping worked for me (Durapore 2") but I also had to wear a chinstrap (Deluxe) in order to keep my cheeks from ballooning with air! I was simply looking for an easier route! The NB device works for me and I used it once or twice a week. I could not wear it every night because after several nights in succession, my bite felt altered! So, yes the device worked for me, just can't use it every night!
I have to add... Now, since becoming a Hybrid success, I no longer have to worry about mouthleaks, tape, chinstraps or devices!
For me , less is more!

[Wideeyed]

Wideeyed, have you been taping over your entire mouth, or just putting one strip of tape on? If just one strip, how long a strip, and where have you been placing it? Horizontally? Vertically?

If you've been taping completely over your mouth, has a corner or edge of the tape been working loose, letting air out?

What brand/type of tape have you tried?

I have to use two strips placed horizontally and slightly overlapping each other -- making a patch that goes well above and below the closed lips, and extending it beyond the corners of the mouth.

Face needs to be freshly washed and dry just before applying the tape or it doesn't "stay stuck" as well all night.

You might want to think about making yourself one of the mouthguard things described in the link below...cheaper than the NoseBreathe, and could be even more effective if you can fashion it to suit you. After a lot of false starts, I've made several that absolutely prevented cpap air from detouring into my mouth.

The trick that works for me with a DIY mouthguard thingy is making it so it will keep the tongue shoved back far enough to block off the entrance from throat to the mouth, rather than trying to keep tongue held up against the roof of the mouth. I don't use tape when I'm using my "DIY" mouthguard. Either method works equally well for me.

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Topic started by frequenseeker Dec 01 2004 - mouth leak solution, cheap DIY oral appliance

I have been able to tolerate Johnson & Johnson's Paper Tape for sensitive skin. Use it horizontally--one strip (1") and about 6" long, turning under ends for easy removal---will take your suggestion and try two strips overlapping. Will also read through link you provided for add'l tips.

Thanks again for all of your helpful advice.

[inacpapfog]

RG is sooo right about taping for full coverage!
Some persons seem to be able to get away with a single strip, but I sure could not. Following Rested Gal's taping instructions solved my midnight blow-outs!

[jeepdoctor]

I have been using J & J DERMIFORM Hypo-Allergenic Knitted Tape. I bought the roll a number of years ago when my wife became allergic to regular tapes after a minor surgery. DERMAFORM has worked well and I have had no reaction to it. The roll is about gone, so I went to the drug store to buy another roll. The pharmacist says it has been discontinued and recommended using 2" wide 3M Micropore.

Any thoughts on 3M Micropore? Okay? Rashes?

Earlier in this post wideeyed stated a preference for J & J Paper Tape for Sensitive Skin. What tapes are forum members having good luck with? What tapes have caused rashes for members? Thanks.

[inacpapfog]

I've tried the micropore and found it to be very easy removal with no skin irritation! (But then, very little irritates my skin!)
My only problem with this brand was that it would not hold up through the night for me. I'm a real dribbler and all that excess moisture just proved to be too much!
Would probably work fine if you're not such a dribble baby as myself!

[jeepdoctor]

Using J & J DERMIFORM, about one night out of three, I replace the tape if I have to go to the bathroom during the night. Saliva loosens it from my lower lip.

[birdshell]

I have been using J & J DERMIFORM Hypo-Allergenic Knitted Tape. I bought the roll a number of years ago when my wife became allergic to regular tapes after a minor surgery. DERMAFORM has worked well and I have had no reaction to it. The roll is about gone, so I went to the drug store to buy another roll. The pharmacist says it has been discontinued and recommended using 2" wide 3M Micropore.

Any thoughts on 3M Micropore? Okay? Rashes?

Earlier in this post wideeyed stated a preference for J & J Paper Tape for Sensitive Skin. What tapes are forum members having good luck with? What tapes have caused rashes for members? Thanks.

After a number of surgeries, I found I was developing a rash from regular beige band-aid tape, cloth beige band-aid tape, white cloth zinc oxide tape, and any other tape EXCEPT:

Clear plastic tape and paper tape

I have been taping my mouth for about 6 weeks now, and use the paper tape. I have found that the Johnson & Johnson paper tape seems to have a little stronger tack and therefore sticks harder and better. That is a negative for me, as peeling the tape off is sensitizing.

I user the 1" wide tape in a vertical strip in the center of my mouth. This works for me. At first I taped all the way across the mouth and tried using the 1" tape doubled with long edge overlapped. This did NOT work for me, as I somehow managed to get that open every single time. I'm surprised RG uses this technique successfully. When doing the full mouth taping horizontally, I had to use the 2" wide tape.

I first wash the skin with Dawn dishwashing liquid for hands; use milk of magnesia on my ski; allow it to dry; and use the 3M Micropore paper tape. The milk of magnesia somehow protects the skin; skimmed milk used in the same way is supposed to work as well. I have not personally tested this.

You may wish to read these threads:

Link to Posting-- Just One Man's Very Successful Mouth Taping Procedure

Link to Posting--Sensitive Skin Problems