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difference between software
can anyone help and let me know if there is any difference between sleepyhead software and Encore 2.1 philips resprionics. i am a first time user of this forum and new to cpap therapy.
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Re: difference between software
Sleepyhead gives all the information you might need both for CPAP and for SPo2. It works on most of the later data recording machines. It is very well documented on this forum. Several of the frequent contributors to this an other forums are available to answer your installation, use and interpretation questions.
It's free to download (though you might want to consider a donation to the developer to help him continue his work). Frankly, I never tried other software as Sleepyhead gave me everything I wanted to know. Though the other programs are fine, I just don't feel the need to use them now.....
Sleepyhead is available for Mac or Windows and I find easy to use.
Good luck, and may your AHI's be low.....
Paul
It's free to download (though you might want to consider a donation to the developer to help him continue his work). Frankly, I never tried other software as Sleepyhead gave me everything I wanted to know. Though the other programs are fine, I just don't feel the need to use them now.....
Sleepyhead is available for Mac or Windows and I find easy to use.
Good luck, and may your AHI's be low.....
Paul
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Re: difference between software
Encore is a product of Phillips-Respironics and provides detailed information as well as graphic reports on what they call wave form data which is pressure and breathing data on a breath-by-breath basis. Encore loads the detailed and summary information but only loads the wave data for the most recent session on the SD card so if you load your data once a week, for example, Encore only loads the last day's wave data for each week. Encore allows the creation of reports covering several days selectable by the user. For example, if you want to look at your compliance data for the last period (year, month, etc.) Encore allows that. Encore make it easy to export to .PDF format any of the reports it can generate. Encore reports may be more readily accepted by your healthcare provider because it is a manufacturer's product. My sleep doctors accept and use both.
SleepyHead is a product of a member, JediMark, and provides similar detailed information but also provides it in a graphic form that allows the user to examine the data down to the second-by-second resolution. All parameters measured are available in graphic form as well as summary form. SleepyHead loads all of the detailed information on the SD card as well as all of the wave data regardless of the frequency of the download. In the above example, a weekly download will get all of the wave data not just the most recent day's data.
If you want a quick way to look at the wave data for a particular session, the Encore reports makes that pretty easy. If you want to be able to look at the graphic data around particular events (obstructive, hypopneas, etc.), SleepyHead makes that easy as well. I load my data into both programs because sometimes I want to look at the data in one form or another and switching between makes that easy for me. Recently, I wanted to look at the breath-to-breath rate for a particular time in the night. Encore allows for this but it is hard to get accurately. SleepyHead lets you do this and it is dead easy. It all depends on your preferences in this matter. As they (the proverbial THEY) say, mileage will vary.
SleepyHead is a product of a member, JediMark, and provides similar detailed information but also provides it in a graphic form that allows the user to examine the data down to the second-by-second resolution. All parameters measured are available in graphic form as well as summary form. SleepyHead loads all of the detailed information on the SD card as well as all of the wave data regardless of the frequency of the download. In the above example, a weekly download will get all of the wave data not just the most recent day's data.
If you want a quick way to look at the wave data for a particular session, the Encore reports makes that pretty easy. If you want to be able to look at the graphic data around particular events (obstructive, hypopneas, etc.), SleepyHead makes that easy as well. I load my data into both programs because sometimes I want to look at the data in one form or another and switching between makes that easy for me. Recently, I wanted to look at the breath-to-breath rate for a particular time in the night. Encore allows for this but it is hard to get accurately. SleepyHead lets you do this and it is dead easy. It all depends on your preferences in this matter. As they (the proverbial THEY) say, mileage will vary.
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Re: difference between software
encore is for hard core masochists, sleepyhead is for people that want their data easy to get, mostly all in one spot, and quick to zoom in to details. plus, it's much more friendly, and evolving.Protectionist wrote:can anyone help and let me know if there is any difference between sleepyhead software and Encore 2.1 philips resprionics. i am a first time user of this forum and new to cpap therapy.
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Re: difference between software
EncoreGuide link this will show you examples of what you will see. For a different machine than yours but the basics are the same.
http://www.healthcare.philips.com/pwc_h ... _Guide.pdf
Nothing says that you can't use either or both and you decide which suits your needs the best.
SleepyHead has both Windows and Mac versions available.
Encore is strictly Windows.
Sounds like you are talking about Encore Viewer 2.1 at a cost of $99.
It won't work with the model 960 PR S1 machines (I assume you aren't needing that high end model) but will work with the other models.
If you want to try Encore without spending the $$ just send me a private message and tell me what OS is on your computer and we will figure out which Encore might work best for you.
http://www.healthcare.philips.com/pwc_h ... _Guide.pdf
Nothing says that you can't use either or both and you decide which suits your needs the best.
SleepyHead has both Windows and Mac versions available.
Encore is strictly Windows.
Sounds like you are talking about Encore Viewer 2.1 at a cost of $99.
It won't work with the model 960 PR S1 machines (I assume you aren't needing that high end model) but will work with the other models.
If you want to try Encore without spending the $$ just send me a private message and tell me what OS is on your computer and we will figure out which Encore might work best for you.
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Re: difference between software
Thank you everybody for your timely help. This makes me more confident to start cpap therapy. Being new its like being in a state of confusion. thanks for your kindness I will stick to sleepyhead s/ware.
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Titration study
urgent help required I just did a sleep study (titration) my prescribed pressured was min 6cmh2o-max 13cmh2o. A flex set at 3 using a wisp mask and philips respironics system one 60 series model 561 P. I tried the prescribed pressure for 2days and my total AHI went up to 3.9 more clutters, snoring etc the graph was like a christmas lighting. prior to this I did my own trial and error to bring it down and had my pressure settings to min 11cm h2o - 15cmh2o and guess what I think it was better than what my physician prescribed. my total AHI was down to 1.50 sometimes even 0.62 and less clutters sleeping up to 7 hours at night on both settings. I dont unsterstand why? apnea events per night were down to 5 or 6 felt great upon waking up. Everything in Australia is so expensive I cant handle this any more.
I am so confused that I don't know who's direction to follow my doctors or continue with my own settings. can some one please guide me and suggest something before I give up on therapy all together.
I am so confused that I don't know who's direction to follow my doctors or continue with my own settings. can some one please guide me and suggest something before I give up on therapy all together.
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Re: difference between software
can some one teach me how to forward my graphs as I cant do it even using sniping tool. may be I am doing it wrong. please help me as I am new to this.
Re: difference between software
Was that 3.9 more events per hour or additional for the entire evening?
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Follow the link in my signature block on posting reports. It describes using PhotoBucket.Protectionist wrote:can some one teach me how to forward my graphs as I cant do it even using sniping tool. may be I am doing it wrong. please help me as I am new to this.
Some recommend Imgur as an alternative site. I haven't updated the post yet for Imgur but the sequence is similar.
The link to copy on Imgur is the BBC one
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Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
Re: difference between software
please, please PLEASE do not follow that link, it's chock full of stupid.JDS74 wrote:Follow the link in my signature block on posting reports.Protectionist wrote:can some one teach me how to forward my graphs as I cant do it even using sniping tool. may be I am doing it wrong. please help me as I am new to this.
all you have to do with sleepyhead is go to the menu on the top, click 'view/take screenshot'.
that will save a screenshot in the screenshots folder of your sleepyhead data directory. if you're not sure where that is, click 'help', then 'about' and it'll tell you were the data directory is.
then, upload those files to imgur.com, imgur will give you a 'bbcode' link to the picture after you've uploaded it (this works best if you make an account on imgur, then you can manage your pics)
then just paste the bbcode link into a message here. simple, easy.
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Re: difference between software
yes it was for the entire nightJimP wrote:Was that 3.9 more events per hour or additional for the entire evening?
Re: difference between software
You know it's the minimum pressure that is the most critical pressure setting and that 6 cm minimum may not be where it can give the machine a better head start to get to where it needs to be.
When you were using 11 cm minimum the base pressure was able to hold the airway open better and the machine didn't have to work so hard to keep the airway open.
If you are seeing a lot of snores and flow limitations along with the slight increase in AHI ....it just means that the 6 cm minimum isn't quite optimal. You may not need that full 11 cm minimum but probably need more than 6 cm to give the machine a better head start so it can be in prevent it work mode instead of fix it work mode.
Titration studies done in lab don't always come up with the most optimal settings. Mine sure didn't.
Part of it could be related to sleep position and amount of REM sleep....maybe at home we sleep better and get more REM sleep where we might need more pressure. Let's face it...sleeping in a sleep lab setting just isn't very natural and we don't sleep the same there as we would at home.
If you know how to use the Snipping Tool....just save that image to some place you can get to easily then go to imgur.com and upload the image and once it's there just copy the bbc code it gives you and paste that code in the body of your text here...you will see code until you click on the submit button. If you want to confirm that the image shows up just click on preview before clicking on submit.
When you were using 11 cm minimum the base pressure was able to hold the airway open better and the machine didn't have to work so hard to keep the airway open.
If you are seeing a lot of snores and flow limitations along with the slight increase in AHI ....it just means that the 6 cm minimum isn't quite optimal. You may not need that full 11 cm minimum but probably need more than 6 cm to give the machine a better head start so it can be in prevent it work mode instead of fix it work mode.
Titration studies done in lab don't always come up with the most optimal settings. Mine sure didn't.
Part of it could be related to sleep position and amount of REM sleep....maybe at home we sleep better and get more REM sleep where we might need more pressure. Let's face it...sleeping in a sleep lab setting just isn't very natural and we don't sleep the same there as we would at home.
If you know how to use the Snipping Tool....just save that image to some place you can get to easily then go to imgur.com and upload the image and once it's there just copy the bbc code it gives you and paste that code in the body of your text here...you will see code until you click on the submit button. If you want to confirm that the image shows up just click on preview before clicking on submit.
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Sleep Data

Here is my data with my prescribed pressure. just lit up like a Christmas tree. although AHI is under 5.00
I will post another link where I did my own pressure setting of 11cm-15cm and things were fine.