Hybrid Mask Reveiw - First Blush (Long)

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Post by Darth Vader Look » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:39 pm

Anonymous wrote:Is this the same Tracy of talkaboutsleep who supports the Resmed price increase and bashes other internet retailers?

http://www.hmenews.com/index.php?p=arti ... 0607bLUJLJ
Tracy Nasca is senior vice president of Talk About Sleep, a resource Internet site for people with sleep disordered breathing that also sells CPAPs. ResMed's new policy, she said, levels the playing field. Some Internet retailers sell products for less than she can buy them.

"We don't offer our retail store just to make a buck," she said. "Or mission is to provide education, information and support. That is the difference between my organization and people who inventory things in their basement and extra bedrooms and just sell on line."
Talk about putting your foot in your mouth and shooting yourself in the other foot, yup that would be her. .


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Post by oldgearhead » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:45 am

OOps! I need to correct what I said (above 2 or 3 replies) The Passive Exhalation Port Flow for the Hybrid is:

__10 cm/H2O = 48 liters per minute (.8 liters/second)

__15 cm/H2O = 60 liters per minute (1.0 liter/second)

__20 cm/H2O = 70 liters per minute (1.2 liters/second)

Someone, a while back was talking about a web site with this data for all
popular masks. Does anyone no if its been done?

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Post by birdiebaby » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:04 pm

Lori --

I have some difficulties with the pillows, too. I get leaks at the top if I move my head. I think my nose is turned up enough that it provides enough of a gap for the pillows to sneak out if I move.

Last night, I took ponytail holders and put them around the upper and lower mask straps. The effect was that it pulled the top of the mask up and in towards my nares more securely. I had one small nose leak last night and no mouth leaks, despite tossing and turning.

I have no doubt there will be a whole slew of ways that people find to fit these more precisely.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:09 pm

birdiebaby wrote:Lori --

I have some difficulties with the pillows, too. I get leaks at the top if I move my head. I think my nose is turned up enough that it provides enough of a gap for the pillows to sneak out if I move.

Last night, I took ponytail holders and put them around the upper and lower mask straps. The effect was that it pulled the top of the mask up and in towards my nares more securely. I had one small nose leak last night and no mouth leaks, despite tossing and turning.

I have no doubt there will be a whole slew of ways that people find to fit these more precisely.
WTG. Shelley! I actually had removed the entire headgear and tried to secure the mask that way. I don't think I quite hit it, but will definitely look into what you just suggested. Rubberbands help tremendously with the Aura (jcarn's tip/invention), now your ponytail holders are helping with the Hybrid. Amazing how necessity really is the mother of invention when it comes to xpap therapy. Thanks for much for sharing that great tip!

Shelley,
After posting the above, I went to try your idea. Now try this. If you lift the seal that sits just above the top lip in order to bring the pillows tighter into the nares, does that work for you? It seemed to for me, but I wasn't sleeping with it. It may just be a matter of positioning all the seals of this mask in the right place if you're having trouble with the pillows leaking. Try that and let me know if you have the same success as I just did. I'll probably go to try to duplicate it later and it won't work .


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Post by Peterau » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:04 am

Lori,

I have been using the Hybrid for a couple of nights now with leaks occasionally. Which I have just fixed. I discovered by getting out my wifes makeup mirror (I now get accused of all sorts of things to do with makeup) is that I was using the wrong size mouth piece. I could see through the mask that part of the inner seal was not sitting on my face. Put on the medium sized mouth piece and the inner seal sits nicely on my face. I could also see that it just went around my mouth. When I tryied it the way the instructions suggested I felt the medium was to small as it covered part of my mouth. It seems the mouth piece expands a little under the pressure from the CPAP. Once I change to the medium I also discovered I could let off the pressure on the 4 mask straps quite a bit. The 5 strap across the top is tight enough to keep the top mask straps above my ears. Guess you shouldn't get into to much trouble if you use a makeup mirror so I would suggest you put your mask on, get the XPAP running and have a good close look at the mouth seal and the position of the pillows. Hope this helps


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:00 am

Thanks, Peterau...will give it a shot later. And leave your poor wife's make-up alone, would you???
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Post by lvehko » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:40 pm

Sleepless on LI wrote:
Snoredog wrote:I know what it is Lori.... you need to grow a beard

Whatever do you mean, Snoredog???
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BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

You guys are too much.

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Post by rascal » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:28 am

Hello everyone

I have worked for over a week with the Hybrid Mask and it does not work well for me. I have tried everything I could imagine even speaking with the manufacturer. I was using the large nasal pillows and large mask. I finally got the nasal leaks stopped and then the mask itself started leaking. I tried different sizes of pillows and masks and to no avail. Then the pillows inserted themselves right up into the nostrils and so I finally gave up at least for now.

The mask was comfortable and I loved the fact that I could mouth breathe if I wanted to.

I understand that it works well with a lot of folks and that is good, but for me at this time, I had to go back to the comfort gel.

I hope everyone else has better luck than I did.




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Post by GoofyUT » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:39 am

Rascal, if you don't mind me asking, are you male or female??? It is beginning to appear that females are having particular trouble in fitting this interface.

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Post by rascal » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:06 pm

Hi Chuck

No I am a male with a big nose!! :<))))

I do wish they would make an extra large nasal pillow but we will see. I have not totally given up yet!

Thanks


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Post by Stormsleeper (Jon 1:6) » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:53 pm

[quote="Peterau"]Lori,

I have been using the Hybrid for a couple of nights now with leaks occasionally. Which I have just fixed. I discovered by getting out my wifes makeup mirror (I now get accused of all sorts of things to do with makeup) is that I was using the wrong size mouth piece. I could see through the mask that part of the inner seal was not sitting on my face. Put on the medium sized mouth piece and the inner seal sits nicely on my face. I could also see that it just went around my mouth. When I tryied it the way the instructions suggested I felt the medium was to small as it covered part of my mouth. It seems the mouth piece expands a little under the pressure from the CPAP. Once I change to the medium I also discovered I could let off the pressure on the 4 mask straps quite a bit. The 5 strap across the top is tight enough to keep the top mask straps above my ears. Guess you shouldn't get into to much trouble if you use a makeup mirror so I would suggest you put your mask on, get the XPAP running and have a good close look at the mouth seal and the position of the pillows. Hope this helps


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Re: Hybrid Mouth Cushion Dimensions

Post by Snoredog » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:06 am

[quote="Stormsleeper (Jon 1:6)"][quote="Peterau"]Lori,

I have been using the Hybrid for a couple of nights now with leaks occasionally. Which I have just fixed. I discovered by getting out my wifes makeup mirror (I now get accused of all sorts of things to do with makeup) is that I was using the wrong size mouth piece. I could see through the mask that part of the inner seal was not sitting on my face. Put on the medium sized mouth piece and the inner seal sits nicely on my face. I could also see that it just went around my mouth. When I tryied it the way the instructions suggested I felt the medium was to small as it covered part of my mouth. It seems the mouth piece expands a little under the pressure from the CPAP. Once I change to the medium I also discovered I could let off the pressure on the 4 mask straps quite a bit. The 5 strap across the top is tight enough to keep the top mask straps above my ears. Guess you shouldn't get into to much trouble if you use a makeup mirror so I would suggest you put your mask on, get the XPAP running and have a good close look at the mouth seal and the position of the pillows. Hope this helps