OK. shall I continue with the 7 to 12 tonight? and /or shall I decrease the EPR you mentioned previously?Pugsy wrote:Okay...just keep an eye on those centrals with your experiments with pressure increases. 6 to 14 for the entire night is really nothing to worry about. Just watch them for right now. They might be a post arousal central...meaning the OAs might be causing a minor arousal (that you don't remember) and the central might might be simply a sleep onset central.
Just keep one eye on them for right now. If you start seeing a large increase then we have a different discussion about options.
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If you like EPR...use it for now. Whatever you do just be consistent with how you want to do your experiments.
It's really hard to speculate much based on one night. We never know when we might have a fluke night. I still get them on occasion myself. I might go a week or two with AHI less than 1.0 and come up with AHI greater than 5.0 and then go right back to less than 1.0.
Reducing or turning EPR off only reduces the drop during exhale so the change isn't as big as a full minimum pressure increase because it is only affecting exhale.
Science 101...keep variables to a minimum and repeat the experiment to rule out fluke nights.
Since you are used to EPR I wouldn't go changing it at this time. That's adding another variable and that is a breathing rhythm change which the body isn't used to at the moment.
It's really hard to speculate much based on one night. We never know when we might have a fluke night. I still get them on occasion myself. I might go a week or two with AHI less than 1.0 and come up with AHI greater than 5.0 and then go right back to less than 1.0.
Reducing or turning EPR off only reduces the drop during exhale so the change isn't as big as a full minimum pressure increase because it is only affecting exhale.
Science 101...keep variables to a minimum and repeat the experiment to rule out fluke nights.
Since you are used to EPR I wouldn't go changing it at this time. That's adding another variable and that is a breathing rhythm change which the body isn't used to at the moment.
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Reply,Pugsy wrote:You are full of it again. Big surprise there. I am also following the new SH data reported with ResScan and guess what? It is pretty much the same and what minor differences I might see are usually rounding up or down differences.avi123 wrote:That poster with the S9 Autoset by using SH and relying on it is sure taking a chance.
If you don't want to use SH...then don't use it. Pretty simple.
Quit bashing something you don't understand and don't want to understand.
If you don't advise a patient who uses a Resmed machine to stick to Resmed ResScan software then you're misleading that person. But you don't mind doing so b/c you get satisfaction making yourself a maven on SH which has been full of bugs since it was created. So you like to be needed and loved on this board no matter what. You have never demonstrated that you could achieve respectful graphs in your own treatment. But you render tons of verbal "advice" regardless.
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see my recent set-up and Statistics:
http://i.imgur.com/TewT8G9.png
see my recent ResScan treatment results:
http://i.imgur.com/3oia0EY.png
http://i.imgur.com/QEjvlVY.png
http://i.imgur.com/TewT8G9.png
see my recent ResScan treatment results:
http://i.imgur.com/3oia0EY.png
http://i.imgur.com/QEjvlVY.png
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while you apparently prefer to make baseless claims and spew other useless drivel.avi123 wrote: Reply,
If you don't advise a patient who uses a Resmed machine to stick to Resmed ResScan software then you're misleading that person. But you don't mind doing so b/c you get satisfaction making yourself a maven on SH which has been full of bugs since it was created. So you like to be needed and loved on this board no matter what.
well done, sir.
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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BS. I post my own reports all the time and often ResScan reports. I just don't need to "prove" anything to anyone, least of all to you.avi123 wrote:You have never demonstrated that you could achieve respectful graphs in your own treatment.
I have said it before and I will say it again since your memory seems to be failing you ...again.
I don't care what software someone uses and in fact behind the scenes I almost always send someone ResScan information (unless they have a Mac) and tell them to try both and they get to decide what they want to use.
I help out with SleepyHead when help is needed but I REALLY DON'T CARE what software someone uses.
According to you I am supposed to not answer a question about SleepyHead because you don't like SleepyHead???
Maybe you need to look in the mirror to see who is really full of himself.
I told you before...when you lie or give out misinformation as you did in this situation I will call you on it. Otherwise I don't care what drivel you spout but I won't let misinformation from your bias against SleepyHead pass when it is blatantly untrue.
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Re: need opinions on pressure settings
A suggestion,Pugsy wrote:BS. I post my own reports all the time and often ResScan reports. I just don't need to "prove" anything to anyone, least of all to you.avi123 wrote:You have never demonstrated that you could achieve respectful graphs in your own treatment.
I have said it before and I will say it again since your memory seems to be failing you ...again.
I don't care what software someone uses and in fact behind the scenes I almost always send someone ResScan information (unless they have a Mac) and tell them to try both and they get to decide what they want to use.
I help out with SleepyHead when help is needed but I REALLY DON'T CARE what software someone uses.
According to you I am supposed to not answer a question about SleepyHead because you don't like SleepyHead???
Maybe you need to look in the mirror to see who is really full of himself.
I told you before...when you lie or give out misinformation as you did in this situation I will call you on it. Otherwise I don't care what drivel you spout but I won't let misinformation from your bias against SleepyHead pass when it is blatantly untrue.
Instead of your endless verbiage, often accompanied with filthy language, just help Resmed machines users achieve good treatment results as the followings, and stop wasting your and other poster's time qvatching about the Sleepy Head or bragging what you did or did not do for yourself b/c you have never been a good OSA treatment model :






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Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: S9 Autoset machine; Ruby chinstrap under the mask straps; ResScan 5.6 |
see my recent set-up and Statistics:
http://i.imgur.com/TewT8G9.png
see my recent ResScan treatment results:
http://i.imgur.com/3oia0EY.png
http://i.imgur.com/QEjvlVY.png
http://i.imgur.com/TewT8G9.png
see my recent ResScan treatment results:
http://i.imgur.com/3oia0EY.png
http://i.imgur.com/QEjvlVY.png
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Here's a suggestion for you...cleaned up a bit for others and not for you.avi123 wrote: A suggestion,
Instead of your endless verbiage, often accompanied with filthy language, just help Resmed machines users achieve good treatment results as the followings, and stop wasting your and other poster's time qvatching about the Sleepy Head or bragging what you did or did not do for yourself b/c you have never been a good OSA treatment model :
Go jump in the lake.
Here's my last 90 days and ResScan since you are such a jackass..
Looks pretty darn good but I am sure you will find something wrong.
You really need to get a handle on your women hating tendencies. Your wife must be a saint.

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Re: need opinions on pressure settings
Ok. I am used to EPR because that is what it has been set at...although I could probably easily adapt to less or none. I know what you mean about too many alternating variables during experiments. so I will go a few more nights at these settings. Last night had less centrals.Pugsy wrote:If you like EPR...use it for now. Whatever you do just be consistent with how you want to do your experiments.
It's really hard to speculate much based on one night. We never know when we might have a fluke night. I still get them on occasion myself. I might go a week or two with AHI less than 1.0 and come up with AHI greater than 5.0 and then go right back to less than 1.0.
Reducing or turning EPR off only reduces the drop during exhale so the change isn't as big as a full minimum pressure increase because it is only affecting exhale.
Science 101...keep variables to a minimum and repeat the experiment to rule out fluke nights.
Since you are used to EPR I wouldn't go changing it at this time. That's adding another variable and that is a breathing rhythm change which the body isn't used to at the moment.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8twufg8pg3msr ... 170405.png
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Pugsy-Pugsy wrote:If you like EPR...use it for now. Whatever you do just be consistent with how you want to do your experiments.
It's really hard to speculate much based on one night. We never know when we might have a fluke night. I still get them on occasion myself. I might go a week or two with AHI less than 1.0 and come up with AHI greater than 5.0 and then go right back to less than 1.0.
Reducing or turning EPR off only reduces the drop during exhale so the change isn't as big as a full minimum pressure increase because it is only affecting exhale.
Science 101...keep variables to a minimum and repeat the experiment to rule out fluke nights.
Since you are used to EPR I wouldn't go changing it at this time. That's adding another variable and that is a breathing rhythm change which the body isn't used to at the moment.
I now have 4 nights of data since changing the pressures from 6/11 to 7/12. below is a simple summary, and links to pictures. (oh, Images now! I just found out that the I was defaulting to a mobile version of Photobucket and images were being so compressed they were blurry. It is all good now)
What do you think? should I make changes now? or keep waiting?
averages:
AHI: 8.31, CA: 2.95, OA: 4.73, UA: 0.06, H: 0.56 (so AHI=5.36 w/o centrals)
Pressure: 95%: 11.76, Med: 10.38
EPR=2
Leak rate 95%= 4.47
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
June 25th was the first night you already saw with the higher CA count:
and, uh, there isn't one for Friday the 27th.




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Time to try 8 cm minimum I would think. See what happens.
I suspect that 9 cm is probably going to be where you end up closer to.
The night without CAs??? No detailed data available or just no CAs? I left my SD card in my computer the other night...so no detailed data but there is still some data available if we used ResScan.
I suspect that 9 cm is probably going to be where you end up closer to.
The night without CAs??? No detailed data available or just no CAs? I left my SD card in my computer the other night...so no detailed data but there is still some data available if we used ResScan.
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I will set the minimum at 8 for tonight and try that for a few days before I check back in with you.Pugsy wrote:Time to try 8 cm minimum I would think. See what happens.
I suspect that 9 cm is probably going to be where you end up closer to.
The night without CAs??? No detailed data available or just no CAs? I left my SD card in my computer the other night...so no detailed data but there is still some data available if we used ResScan.
No data available at all for Friday night. It was a late night out and didn't wear it when I got home.
I downloaded and starting using sleepyhead after finding this group based on an overheard conversation at Starbucks about user available CPAP software...and recall it having the image of a sheep with a CPAP mask. I immediately just started using it...and like it. although those fragmented pressure graphs sure threw me for a loop on the earlier version. I haven't tried ResScan, and was only able to find the download links for an older version. Would you send me a PM with the download for the latest version?
And would you mind if we quit this thread... continuing by PM or a new thread?