best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by Woody » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:00 pm

Now and how they found this out is beyond me but bright blueish light applied to the back of the knee
is supposed to work about as well as light that reach your eyes. Seriously how that works is beyond
me.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:24 pm

Ruinednose wrote:How to reset your cicardian rhythm for better sleep.

anyone ever tried reseting cicardian rhythm for better sleep?
First of all, you need to know how to SPELL Circadian.

Next, do a Google search on "Circadian rhythm reset" (copy and paste that into the Google search line).

Lots of links of things to read.


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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by library lady » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:23 pm

@Ruinednose, I have delayed sleep phase, 3AM-11AM, and my sleep doc offered to help me work on changing it with the use of a light box. He did warn me that once changed, I would have to always get up at the same time or it would ruin the new sleep cycle. I finally decided, since I'm now retired, that want the freedom of sleeping in occasionally, and I've found a compromise to my sleep schedule that works for me as an alternative to changing the rhythm, and it's working for me. I'm sure you can find a doctor who will help you.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by Ruinednose » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:55 pm

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by archangle » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:23 am

Fly a few time zones west and spend a few days on a nice tropical beach. Then repeat until you're back in your own time zone.

One promising idea that I haven't tried is to stop eating 12 to 16 hours before the time you want to get up. For instance, if you want to get up at 6 AM, stop eating at 2 PM or 6 PM. Then eat a big meal at 6 AM and try to get up and around and do things. Repeat until you're in synch.

I've seen some fairly convincing reports on this, and it's free to try.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by palerider » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:31 am

Ruinednose wrote:How to reset your cicardian rhythm for better sleep. i want this..but dont have the money http://re-timer.com/

anyone ever tried reseting cicardian rhythm for better sleep?
while resetting your circadian rhythms are valid, that dohickey you linked has "GIMMICK" written all over it.

go outside in the morning, soak up sunlight, and then avoid bright (and especially bluish) computer/phone screens a while before bedtime... use flux/easyeyes etc to make your screens dimmer and less blue, or just avoid glowing screens, read a book... you know, the paper kind.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by 49er » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:49 am

archangle wrote:Fly a few time zones west and spend a few days on a nice tropical beach. Then repeat until you're back in your own time zone.

One promising idea that I haven't tried is to stop eating 12 to 16 hours before the time you want to get up. For instance, if you want to get up at 6 AM, stop eating at 2 PM or 6 PM. Then eat a big meal at 6 AM and try to get up and around and do things. Repeat until you're in synch.

I've seen some fairly convincing reports on this, and it's free to try.
Since I have advanced phase syndrome issues, the solution for me is to go to Europe All jokes aside, in my desperate attempt to find solutions to avoid feeling drugged after dinner to the point where I couldn't stay awake, I tried not eating after 2pm and that was a big colossal failure. But after getting my lab work back with an A1C level that indicates I have an increased risk for diabetes depending on what site you believe, my problem with Circadian rhythm issues make alot more sense. Unfortunately, taking a BB drug which I intend to ask the Cardiologist to change that I am seeing on Monday has worsened my sleeping patterns even more which totally messed up my diet.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by gary1231 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:23 pm

Woody wrote:I can't rember the name of it but there is another cheep device made for this. What it does
is start to turn on a small light 30 min. before you get up. But it's not all at once it starts
as a very dim glow and takes 30 min to reach full brightness just like what happens in nature.
One other thing that some people use is use a much reduced lighting level evenings. And as our
eyes are more effected by blue light like we often get from our computer screens there is a
program available to remove the blue light from your computer screen at night , makes for a really
horrible picture but is suposed let your brain really believe it's night. Also some people find that
even all these small leds we have on everything from the dishwasher, phone, coffee maker even
our cpap all have a negative effect on our sleep. Yea that blue led on my cpap may be interfering a little
with my sleep using a red one would have been a better idea.
I have one of these. It's a Verilux Rise and Shine. $74 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Verilux-Shine-Nat ... B003TPSD7K

It also has the option to add sound to the wakeup cycle.

I hever got into the habit of using it so I can't speak to its effectiveness. I think for it to be effective I would have to turn my desk light off when I go to sleep, which I have yet to do. I had a bad experience as a little kid with the dark and I've had to sleep with a light on ever since. Don't know if I have to have it on now, or if it's just habit.

Verilux also sells light boxes, which are commonly used for Seasonal Affectivity Disorder (SAD). People can experience depression in the fall/winter due to shorter days and less sunlight.

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Re: best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

Post by gary1231 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:33 pm

I had an appointment with my new neurologist today, and she diagnosed me with delayed sleep phase. For me, 1am-9am is a pretty normal time for me. It definitely affects me because I am supposed to be at work at 6am, which would mean getting up at 4:30am. Luckily I have a boss who tolerates me. He doesn't know about the DSPS, though. I think his patience is about worn out with me, though. I was off for a month and a half on short term disability (went back to work about two weeks ago) because I just could not get myself out of bed and going in the mornings. Turns out I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis as well. My sleep apnea is a 7.9, but is probably worse now that I have gained 20 pounds and kept it on since my sleep study over a year ago. My arrival time at work since I came back has been 9am or later. Even missed a few days.

The doctor didn't seem too overly optimistic that DSPS can be cured. But it easy to slip right back into your old sleep patterns, as someone else said.

I currently take 5mg of melatonin about 8pm. She suggested raising it to 8mg. Taken three hours before bedtime. Don't try to adjust your sleep schedule more than an hour at a time.

There is also a way to supposedly reset your rhythm by forcing yourself to stay awake, changing the time you go to sleep to later and later until you've turned your clock almost completely around. I was tempted to try it, but at the time I didn't have the luxury of doing it. I completely forgot about it during my time off, or I would have given it a try. I am sure if you search online you can find more information about that.

She also suggested avoiding sunlight later in the day, which is difficult now that the days are so long. Sunlight inhibits the production of melatonin.