Hybrid Mask Reveiw - First Blush (Long)

Sleepy-in-AL · Post by **Sleepy-in-AL** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:29 pm

LoRi,

Good luck. I haven't noticed the clips being a problem for me.

I wish I were content with my current mask. Unfortunately, I'm definately a mouth breather and resolved to a full face mask of some type. Hopefully tonight will even be an improvement over last night.

One thing I have noticed is that this mask seems much more sensitive to causing leaks from touching the pillow when side sleeping.

Don't give up too easily.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:33 pm

Sleepy-in-AL wrote:One thing I have noticed is that this mask seems much more sensitive to causing leaks from touching the pillow when side sleeping.

Don't give up too easily.

I'm not going down without a fight, I promise. And I am an exclusive side sleeper, or at least 99.9% of the time. Occasionally I wake up on my back in surprise.

Now, the question is, how many pillows have you bought since being on cpap? Maybe you're not using the right one with this mask. I have my arsenal lined up waiting now that you mentioned that aspect. I seemed to have forgotten that certain masks need certain types of pillows. Thanks for the heads-up.

Sleepy-in-AL · Post by **Sleepy-in-AL** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:42 pm

Sleepless on LI wrote: I'm not going down without a fight, I promise. And I am an exclusive side sleeper, or at least 99.9% of the time. Occasionally I wake up on my back in surprise.

Now, the question is, how many pillows have you bought since being on cpap? Maybe you're not using the right one with this mask. I have my arsenal lined up waiting now that you mentioned that aspect. I seemed to have forgotten that certain masks need certain types of pillows. Thanks for the heads-up.

I used to be exclusively a stomach sleeper, but had to give it up when I started BiPAP. Now I almost always sleep on my side.

I've only bought one pillow. Shortly after I started treatment, I went out and bought one of the better "memory foam" pillows and it has worked well for me, at least until this mask.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:51 pm

[quote="Sleepless on LI"]OGH and MM,

Thanks for the feedback. Of course, now I can't stop fadiddling (is that a word?) with it to get it to work. I even tried inserting the Breeze pillows, but nope. I did pull out my bottle of benzoin tincture and instant seal about most areas. However, the pillows seems to have to really pull up against my nares to make a decent seal. My husband told me, in his best "Fat Bastard" voice (from Austin Powers), "Very sexy." And that even gives a woman more incentive to keep trying to get it to work .

I saw on the video that the side straps are supposed to clear the top of your ears and the bottom ones should come under the ears. Trying to keep that in mind, I think the answer is a combination of what both of you have said. Mike said to keep the top side straps tight enough to keep the pillows sealed. And OGH said to use the top strap that goes across the crown as possibly a key tension element. I will continue to work with those and see what happens.

Mike, yes, good old Karen and her PACs are definitely going to be needed for this. I have very sensitive cheeks when it comes to leaving marks, obviously. I wonder if they can fix that clip so that it doesn't dig in the way it does. I don't consider myself one with pudgy cheeks, but I can't see how this could work on anyone who does have pudgier cheeks. Not a good config. for the clip there. I may get creative and remove the headgear and try the old headband or pantyhose fix and see if it would work better for me. I have a feeling these clips and I are not going to get along too well. Even with a PAC, the clip is still there.

I am NOT GIVING UP. It's far too early to say those words, so back to the drawing board. Thanks for the feedback.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:01 pm

Snoredog wrote:I know what it is Lori.... you need to grow a beard

Whatever do you mean, Snoredog???

wolftracker · Post by **wolftracker** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:09 pm

is this a real pic
or a photoshop pic

only her significant other knows for sure rofl

that is to much

oldgearhead · Post by **oldgearhead** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:42 pm

If they haven't already started the process, the maker of the Hybrid mask can make a lot more money by offering more options. Such as:

__Extra tall medium pillows.
__Extra tall large pillows.
__Half sizes for the mouthpiece.
__Etc. etc..

I think I just made a break-through with mine. I'm going with the large
pillows tonight. They are taller than the medium.

Lori, you may need the extra tall medium pillows, when and if/they become available...

inacpapfog · Post by **inacpapfog** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:55 pm

OK! Mine arrived today! And I am about to attempt my first "fitting", so reading these hints should help! Can't wait to see how it works tonight!

inacpapfog · Post by **inacpapfog** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:11 pm

Fitting complete! Trial run was flawless!! So comfortable!
And what a pleasure to be able to relax my tongue with no rush of diverted nasal air flooding into the mouth! I guess the dual air feed to nasal and oral at the same time simpy "adjusts" automatically as either cavity opens or closes!
Will post in the morning how it goes through the night !
PS. I went ahead and placed PAC's on my straps! Might as well go for the full comfort effect!!!

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:18 pm

inacpapfog,

What sizes did you use for the nasal pillows and mouthpiece? And did you use Swift or regular PACs? I used the Swift double thick PACs on my upper side straps.

Good luck tonight. We'll have to compare notes in the AM...

inacpapfog · Post by **inacpapfog** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:46 pm

Lori, While replaying the cpap.com video (I guess it's the same video that is recorded on the CD that came shipped with my mask?) I fitted myseld with the appropriate sized mouthpiece. For me, this is the large mouthpiece. I made sure to select the mouthpiece that clearly covers my mouth and sits ABOVE my top lip, rather than ON my top lip. I opted to use the med. nasal prongs as I use the medium Swift nasal pillows. The nasal pillows sure are the softest I've come across yet!
BTW, Karen makes "double thick" PAC's? Sounds like something I want!

snoozie_suzy · Post by **snoozie_suzy** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:02 pm

Sounds like this mask might need some Rested Gal tweaking like she did with the Aura (from at least what I've read on this forum, I don't use the Aura but have seen the pics posted!)

I just caved and ordered a Hybrid. I don't use the FF mask much at all anymore, but sometimes I grow weary with the taping of my lips every night. I'm not claustrophic when I first do it but I have woken up a few times lately and ripped the tape off my lips feeling like I'm suffocating. So i guess I'm looking for a mask where its not as bulky as the ultra mirage FF, but yet its okay if my lips open slightly.

Anyhow, I only used the Swift for two weeks last year and its been sitting in a drawer ever since (the air felt too forceful for me up my nose) and since I never had to deal with the "tweaking' of the Swift for the pillows and padding for the swoosh mark it left on cheeks I have a few ?'s for people that have used the Hybrid recently:

1.) With the Swift I believe i read in many posts the pillows were supposed to rest LIGHTLY but not be crammed into nose. In contrast to this mask, some people have posted about the Hybrid that these pillows need to be pressed tighter into nares than other type pillows?

2.) Regarding the swoosh mark of the Swift vs. buckle marks left by Hybrid, I also have not had to order "PadAcheek" pads from Karen. What types do you guys suggest? Thicker ones for the straps above ears and the regular size for the lower ones?

I probably sound like I'm jumping ahead, but you guys know how it is......you just want to dive right in to using the new mask you receive and not have to wait for certain accessories to arrive!!

Thanks in advance for any replies!
Suzy

Sleepy-in-AL · Post by **Sleepy-in-AL** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:36 pm

Sleepless on LI wrote:
Snoredog wrote:I know what it is Lori.... you need to grow a beard

Whatever do you mean, Snoredog???

LoRi,

No what you really need is a mustache to protect that upper lip from the pressure. ROTFL!!!!!!

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:45 pm

Sleepy-in-AL wrote:
Sleepless on LI wrote:
Snoredog wrote:I know what it is Lori.... you need to grow a beard

Whatever do you mean, Snoredog???

LoRi,

No what you really need is a mustache to protect that upper lip from the pressure. ROTFL!!!!!!

Is this better???

maskjkie · Post by **maskjkie** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:04 am

inacpapfog wrote:Lori, While replaying the cpap.com video (I guess it's the same video that is recorded on the CD that came shipped with my mask?) I fitted myseld with the appropriate sized mouthpiece. For me, this is the large mouthpiece. I made sure to select the mouthpiece that clearly covers my mouth and sits ABOVE my top lip, rather than ON my top lip. I opted to use the med. nasal prongs as I use the medium Swift nasal pillows. The nasal pillows sure are the softest I've come across yet!

Inacpapfog,

Bingo! This is exactly what I remind my patients who have had a comfortable titration with the Hybrid in the sleep lab. The key is making sure the oral cushion (you call it mouthpiece) sits above the top lip. If you do that, it also gives adequate separation between the upper and bottom straps and help the pillows seal better (they are not pulled down). A couple of patients who have managed to get the Hybrid from Lincare vouch for that tip!

Good Luck, Maskjkie

Hybrid Mask Reveiw - First Blush (Long)

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