Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life Than Meat-Ea

[johnthomasmacdonald]

I'm vegan entirely because i don't want to kill animals or see them suffer to feed me. If it's healthier than eating meat than that's all just gravy for me(pitiful pun intended). For my age i'm not in very good physical condition and i've been vegan for something like 30 years ( before there really was the term vegan or at least that i was aware of). I also don't lecture people on the morals of eating meat - it's ONE thing in a very complicated life.

[Captain_Midnight]

“Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.”

I've known several vegetarians (I'm in California); and, I have suspected what the authors conclude for a long time.
As to why? I suspect that it's way too many carbs, including too much wheat and too much corn, and too little protein and a few other nutrients such as carnitine.

BTW, many folks view the issue of carnivore vs vegetarian diets with almost religious intensity. Whatever you do is fine w me, and I don't make dietary recommendations. Diets are a good topic for health-related discussion, and I'm interested in all viewpoints.

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[sewsleepy]

People tend to get so opinionated about diet yet we really know so little still at this point. We do know that vegans need to supplement a couple vitamins so it would appear to me it isn't the diet we were designed for, but in this day and age they do have the opportunity to use supplements and eat that diet if it appeals to them. To each his own. I think every nutritionist agrees on one thing though, vegetables are really important to health and most of us don't eat enough of them. And we can probably all agree that sugar leads to a whole host of problems.

[RogerSC]

This is sort of like this one

That was great! And no one should miss "The Etiology and Treatment of Childhood," published in the hilarious "Journal of Polymorphous Perversity" many years ago. Don't forget to read the references too, they're great!

http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/at ... ldhood.pdf

Great, and loved the references, especially the ones at the end. Love to see intellectuals sparring at that level *smile*. The paper itself is a nice mixture of academic study with practical approaches to therapy for the condition. Very inspiring.

Thanks.

[poorflick]

I don't know why people get so judgemental about what other people eat or don't eat. I'm vegetarian and couldn't care less if people eat meat. Not do business with someone because they don't eat meat? Lmao.

[kaiasgram]

This is sort of like this one

That was great! And no one should miss "The Etiology and Treatment of Childhood," published in the hilarious "Journal of Polymorphous Perversity" many years ago. Don't forget to read the references too, they're great!

http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/at ... ldhood.pdf

Great, and loved the references, especially the ones at the end. Love to see intellectuals sparring at that level *smile*. The paper itself is a nice mixture of academic study with practical approaches to therapy for the condition. Very inspiring.

Thanks.

I wish I could write like those guys!

[49er]

I don't know why people get so judgemental about what other people eat or don't eat. I'm vegetarian and couldn't care less if people eat meat. Not do business with someone because they don't eat meat? Lmao.

Totally agree poorflick as someone who is not a vegetarian.

And to not do business with someone who doesn't eat meat? I thought I had heard all kinds of biases. Sheesh.

49er

[zoocrewphoto]

I don't know why people get so judgemental about what other people eat or don't eat. I'm vegetarian and couldn't care less if people eat meat. Not do business with someone because they don't eat meat? Lmao.

Totally agree poorflick as someone who is not a vegetarian.

And to not do business with someone who doesn't eat meat? I thought I had heard all kinds of biases. Sheesh.

49er

I am amazed at how many take it so personally. I do eat meat as I hate most veggies.if you took away what I shouldn't eat and what I don't like, there isn't much left aside from meat and dairy.

I have a couple co-workers who are vegetarian and another one who doesn't eat pork. We work in a deli department, so we all slice meats, make sandwiches, etc. A couple of them were nervous at first, but they are okay handling it. Shortly after one of them started, the bakery manager said she should transfer to the bakery. The poor girl cried as she wanted to stay in the deli. We liked her very much, so we told him that she was staying with us. At Christmas time, I make smoked salmon dip for everybody in my department. For the two vegetarians, I make brownies. I checked first to make sure eggs were okay. We all get along great. I really don't see why it is such a big deal to some people. We have lots of different preferences. Different religions, different food preferences, different lifestyles, etc.

[deerslayer]

most definitely, to each his own. we all at times are too judgmental,including myself . case in point my screen name deerslayer.
i haven't hunted in years. not because i can't but because perhaps the years have mellowed me some.
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[Julie]

Then again, if you're vegetarian because you believe it's wrong to kill animals, let alone for our own food, that's a principle, and you'd feel hypocritical and unethical to then do business with people who aren't veg. Why is this hard to grasp?

[poorflick]

What's "hard to grasp" is why we feel the need to want to change other people. I'm vegetarian for ethical and health reasons but the reasons are mine and I own them. I'm sitting next to a meat eater right now who is chowing down on a hotdog. I don't walk his path and don't feel the need or want to tell him he should be just like me. I'm fine with the way I am. I am fine with the way you are. What happens to some vegetarians is they start caring more about animals then they do their fellow man. Oh, and that goes for some meat eaters too...

[OhHelpMe]

they start caring more about animals then they do their fellow man.

That is what my wife says about me.

But, I do love my darlings.




And now with the price of beef, I love the extra income.

[Julie]

WHY is it that anyone who cares about animals is automatically accused of not caring about people? Why? It's ridiculous!

[Not Fade]

WHY is it that anyone who cares about animals is automatically accused of not caring about people? Why? It's ridiculous!

Because of irresponsible pet owners! There are millions of them.

I can tell you dozens of stories about owners that protect their pets to the danger of neighbors and passersby.

A friend told me a story of being bitten by a dog while he was out running one morning in January 2014. He called the animal control and the officer came quickly. The friend identified the dog in the yard, showed the office his bleeding leg and filed a report. The officer told him he would take the dog and lock it up for 30 days for observation for rabies and he would be contacted with results by the health department. He also said he would ticket the owner for violating the leash law and the owner would have to pay for the dog observation.

He asked my friend to leave before he went onto the owner's property. He told him he did not want a confrontation and that he had seen owners attack, threaten to attack and threaten to kill people who had been bitten by their dogs.

Does that answer your question?

(Owners also lead their dogs to poop in my yard.)

[poorflick]

WHY is it that anyone who cares about animals is automatically accused of not caring about people? Why? It's ridiculous!

In case you didn't notice I said "some". Some does not mean all.