Humidifier Turn-On Poll

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How would you program your humidifier?

Automatic ON/OFF with machine ON/OFF
51
68%
Manual humidifier ON/OFF
21
28%
I don't use humidifier
1
1%
Huh, what's a humidifier?
2
3%
 
Total votes: 75

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Humidifier Turn-On Poll

Post by NightHawkeye » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:58 pm

In light of recent discussions, a poll of preferences . . .

Given that modern xPAP's all have the memory to store the humidifier setting as automatic ON, how would you program your xPAP?

Please assume that the automatic function is programmable in the manner defined below:
rested gal wrote: . . . the option I'd want if I had my druthers is -- CHOICE of on/off with the machine's on/off OR manual on/off. Let the individual user of the machine set it the way he/she wants it to work.
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Post by Goofproof » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:08 pm

I usually fill it and use as passover, but I still have that one good finger I use to start my machine, to use for the HH. Jim
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Post by Wulfman » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:13 pm

Me, too.

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I VOTED !!!!!

Post by Ric » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:50 am

I voted for AUTO on/off.

having said that, a number of issues come to mind:

1. what are the problems of running the humidifier with no water? does it represent a fire hazard, electrical hazard, hot plastic fumes hazard, etc? In the same breath I should stipulate that whether it's manual or automatic doesn't bear on that issue, except that if there are safeguards built in to protect from any such imaginable hazards, then it is only a question of convenience. I would choose to conveniently have it turn itself on and off. That is not to say that one couldn't manually turn it on then watch it melt because there was no water in the reservoir, it would just seem less likely to happen.

2. The above also presupposes that the thermostat can operate perfectly with or without water in the reservoir to distribute the heat. My initial reaction is that it is a "given", (it has been tested and certified by UL and the FDA, they MUST'VE thought of that, yes?) Otherwise i'm back to "manual".

3. Some people like to pre-heat the HH to start it hot and wet right out of the gate. I personally don't think those few minutes make much difference. But since we're redesigning this, it might be good to have it both ways: manual "ON" to pre-heat, then automatic "REALLY ON" with first puff.

4. Another engineering consideration: with the "auto on" feature there is probably a tightly-coupled "automatic-forgetting-to-check-the-water-level" feature. I would suggest a water-level detection and response feature. (There are lots of ways to check the fluid level with NO MOVING PARTS). Granted, it would add another $5 to the cost of manufacturing, (AND raise the retail price another $500). Engineerically speaking, one could probably "infer" the water level using the existing equipment, by calculating the temperature response curve for a given applied voltage to the heating elements.(?) But better ways to do it.

5. More HH RE-design considerations: Add a choice of audible alarms, or downloadable "ring tones": ("THE WA-TER LE-VEL IS DAN-GER-OUS-LY LOW PLEZE ADD WA-TER NOW". or "Please suh, more water", or "YO! BRING ME DA WATUH! and SOON!). or whatever... At least something detectable within the audio range of the intended user. Especially for the "AUTO ON/OFF" user. And a volume level control. Come to think of it, I bet they could blast the message up the hose where it would actually do some good. ("HELLOOOOOOOOOOO.... LOOOOO... ooooo, THIS IS YOUR HUMIDIFIER........ FIER...... ierrrr... rrrr........ *gasp* *choke*)

6. (This is getting slightly off theme, but now that I have given it some thought, I AM gonna hafta connect a short hose from the HH to a (slightly modified) boom box "IN", and plug the mask into the boom box "OUT". Has anybody tried that? If not, I intend to patent it.) If this is going to function as a message system, I can think of LOTS of practical uses for this, and not just soft lullabyes for going to sleep (i.e. gentle strains of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, as mikemoran would say.). "HEELLOOO! THIS IS THE CONTROL UNIT! Was that a "CENTRAL" or are you really swallowing your tongue??? take your time..."

7. I would think the HH AUTO ON/OFF feature, even if it didn't appeal to the "early-on pre-heat" audience, would appeal to the "middle-of-the-night-get-up-and-go" crowd who, for reasons of forgetfulness or laziness (me for example) don't remember to turn the HH back ON. And therefore aren't getting the full benefit.

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Post by dsm » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:03 am

AUTO

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Post by Yoga » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:15 am

Auto also. Thanks for bringing this subject up.


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Re: I VOTED !!!!!

Post by Amigo » Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:01 am

Ric wrote:I voted for AUTO on/off.

having said that, a number of issues come to mind:

3. Some people like to pre-heat the HH to start it hot and wet right out of the gate. I personally don't think those few minutes make much difference. But since we're redesigning this, it might be good to have it both ways: manual "ON" to pre-heat, then automatic "REALLY ON" with first puff.

7. I would think the HH AUTO ON/OFF feature, even if it didn't appeal to the "early-on pre-heat" audience, would appeal to the "middle-of-the-night-get-up-and-go" crowd who, for reasons of forgetfulness or laziness (me for example) don't remember to turn the HH back ON. And therefore aren't getting the full benefit.


These are my favorites, Ric, although the "voice" features gave me a good laugh. Thanks..


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Post by Nitro Dan » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:11 am

Auto all the way!

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Post by PEELS » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:54 am

I voted auto but with a wireless remote - us guys just gotta have one!


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Post by Bob... » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:44 am

Auto

I couldn't wait so I got a HC150 and run it on X10. The Aussie heated hose also has it's own X10 module and the APAP runs with a wireless remote X10 module. The controller/timer is within easy reach on the headboard if needed, but X10 takes care of it without my help. The wireless remote for the APAP is SOOOOOO NICE!

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Post by rested gal » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:55 am

Welp, I didn't vote, 'cuz the option I'd want if I had my druthers is -- CHOICE of on/off with the machine's on/off OR manual on/off. Let the individual user of the machine set it the way he/she wants it to work.

I can imagine some times of the year when the user would like to turn the humidifier on ahead of time to preheat it, and other times when it would be more convenient to have it just come on when the machine is started.

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Post by NightHawkeye » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:15 pm

rested gal wrote:Welp, I didn't vote, 'cuz the option I'd want if I had my druthers is -- CHOICE of on/off with the machine's on/off OR manual on/off. Let the individual user of the machine set it the way he/she wants it to work.
As a point of clarification, RG, what you want is what I intended for the poll. Sorry, in looking back at the poll, that point wasn't made clearly enough. What I was envisioning when I wrote the words "program your humidifier", was setting the humidifier auto function the same way that Respironics allows setting the Alarm function. If you want it ON, you can turn it ON and the machine remembers the setting.

So, go ahead and vote now, RG. You can have it your way. .

Regards,
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Using X-10 for CPAP Setup

Post by Yoga » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:14 pm

Bob
My husband was very intrigued by your use of the X-10 system. Could you post the details of your setup to the forum or PM them to me. Thanks
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Post by Nitro Dan » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:49 am

[quote="PEELS"]I voted auto but with a wireless remote - us guys just gotta have one!

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Re: Humidifier Turn-On Poll

Post by HarleyJoe » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:20 pm

My S9 is setup auto start/stop as is the humidifier attached to it. No need for a remote start using and X10 system. Most of my home is X10 controlled but I have to say..........DAMN.........you have to much time on your hands. LOL.

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