Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by ems » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:41 pm

kaiasgram wrote:I've been on this therapy for a year and a half and I also continue to have terribly unrefreshing sleep. Like you, I've had tons of medical tests with no definitive results. And, like you, I do have a known medical condition (generically referred to as dysautonomia) but exactly how it might be affecting my sleep issues is very unclear. I too was anticipating some improvement in my health and physical feeling of well-being once I started on cpap, and I got my therapy dialed in very quickly to AHI's of .1 and .2, with frequent zeros, on a consistent daily basis. But a year and a half later I'm still utterly exhausted and have to push through each day.
Take out the word "dysautonomia" and in its place put "migraines"... and your post could have been mine. I'm finding that doctors, including neurologists, have little patience for people with migraines. They say... here, take this or take that... just toss something out so that you will leave their office. One doctor said that headaches are all stress related unless you have a brain tumor or something like that.

I did find one doctor who thought he was very knowledgeable when it came to migraines. Put me on several meds which made me feel terrible and didn't help at all. When I mentioned these meds to my internist, she didn't agree with the meds the neuro had suggested and was very concerned about the dose he put me on. She took me off two, if I remember correctly, and lowered the dose of one. I felt better after that but the migraines didn't stop.

Snorkelpuss... I hope you get some answers. If you do, please pass them on.
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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:38 pm

Four days after the initial post and not a word from the OP......"SnorkelPuss".

Another one of those frustrating scenarios when trying to help people on a forum.


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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by 49er » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:58 pm

Wulfman... wrote:Four days after the initial post and not a word from the OP......"SnorkelPuss".

Another one of those frustrating scenarios when trying to help people on a forum.


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Be patient. Something might have happened that could be preventing Snorkelpuss from accessing the Internet. Hopefully, she is ok.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by ems » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:00 pm

Wulfman... wrote:Four days after the initial post and not a word from the OP......"SnorkelPuss".

Another one of those frustrating scenarios when trying to help people on a forum.


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That's plain silly! Maybe she went away for the long weekend.
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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:42 pm

ems wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Four days after the initial post and not a word from the OP......"SnorkelPuss".

Another one of those frustrating scenarios when trying to help people on a forum.


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That's plain silly! Maybe she went away for the long weekend.
Except she posted to another thread on the 17th (Friday), but no replies to the questions that were posed to her in this thread two days earlier.


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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by ems » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:49 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
ems wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Four days after the initial post and not a word from the OP......"SnorkelPuss".

Another one of those frustrating scenarios when trying to help people on a forum.


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That's plain silly! Maybe she went away for the long weekend.
Except she posted to another thread on the 17th (Friday), but no replies to the questions that were posed to her in this thread two days earlier.


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I know you can't possibly keep track of all the people who post. Is it true? Are you chief of the forum police?
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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am

ems wrote:I know you can't possibly keep track of all the people who post. Is it true? Are you chief of the forum police?
If you hadn't made your previous remark, I wouldn't have looked up her posting history. It was there that I found the post she made on the 17th.

My point was that it's frustrating when people post......looking for help......get some suggestions and questions (because the information they gave was incomplete) and then disappear for either a long time or........forever. At least this one has had quite a few previous posts. Some people post ONE time and then disappear.


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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by ems » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:35 am

Wulfman... wrote:
ems wrote:I know you can't possibly keep track of all the people who post. Is it true? Are you chief of the forum police?
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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by SnorkelPuss » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:32 pm

Hey everyone
Thanks for your input. Here are answers to your questions, hopefully I cover everything.
for the most part I have a regular schedule as far as sleeping. I Go to bed about the same time every night except on the weekends where I usually sleep longer and I might go to bed an hour or two later. I have a comfortable bedroom I have a Tempur-pedic mattress so I'm all good there. There are times when I wake up in the middle of the night with pain of some kind. Unfortunately I usually take the Aleve or ibuprofen before bed but now it looks like I might be getting an ulcer because of overuse. I've had periods of mouth breathing and woken up but that seems to be in the past for now. I really don't take anything specifically for fibromyalgia and all the drugs that I tried had side effects and they really didn't seem to do anything anyway. I'm taking an antidepressant in the morning and I take thyroid medication for Hashimoto's.
My diagnosis is simply OSA mild to moderate. My current setting on CPAP is 10.6. After fiddling around with APAP for a while I didn't like the changing pressures as they seemed to wake me up all the time so I went back to CPAP and that seems to work for me. I do take Klonopin at night. I do have a lot of stress and anxiety in my life. I started taking the Klonopin for the anxiety I felt when going to bed because I had to use the CPAP machine. I average about 7 to 8 hours of sleep per night.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by SnorkelPuss » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:41 pm

Sorry I took so long. Had to get it all down cuz there were a lot of responses to make. Took me awhile to organize thoughts.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by SnorkelPuss » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:49 pm

ems wrote:
kaiasgram wrote:I've been on this therapy for a year and a half and I also continue to have terribly unrefreshing sleep. Like you, I've had tons of medical tests with no definitive results. And, like you, I do have a known medical condition (generically referred to as dysautonomia) but exactly how it might be affecting my sleep issues is very unclear. I too was anticipating some improvement in my health and physical feeling of well-being once I started on cpap, and I got my therapy dialed in very quickly to AHI's of .1 and .2, with frequent zeros, on a consistent daily basis. But a year and a half later I'm still utterly exhausted and have to push through each day.
Take out the word "dysautonomia" and in its place put "migraines"... and your post could have been mine. I'm finding that doctors, including neurologists, have little patience for people with migraines. They say... here, take this or take that... just toss something out so that you will leave their office. One doctor said that headaches are all stress related unless you have a brain tumor or something like that.

I did find one doctor who thought he was very knowledgeable when it came to migraines. Put me on several meds which made me feel terrible and didn't help at all. When I mentioned these meds to my internist, she didn't agree with the meds the neuro had suggested and was very concerned about the dose he put me on. She took me off two, if I remember correctly, and lowered the dose of one. I felt better after that but the migraines didn't stop.

Snorkelpuss... I hope you get some answers. If you do, please pass them on.
Thanks. Heads been feeling better. Still pressure but not stabby any more. I like my neurologist so I'm not giving up on her yet.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:49 pm

You mentioned your AHI in your first post, but it's not clear as to whether you use software to review your data or whether you're getting the data from the LCD.
If you're using software, what do the nightly reports look like......especially with regard to the leak data.

Not a whole lot "jumps out at me", but you might want to do a forum search on "Klonopin" and do some reading. There are something like 53 pages of posts and a casual browsing of a few indicated that it may be problematic for some.

Thanks for the update.


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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:54 pm

Do some thorough investigation as to the side effects of your Klonopin and whatever the antidepressant is that you take in the AM.

Common side effects...drowsiness, fatigue are 2 main ones for just about any antidepressant and Klonopin.
There are other side effects as well.
Not say all your daytime issues are totally related to meds but there's a good chance that the meds are making a significant impact.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by SnorkelPuss » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:49 pm

I do use the software but really haven't for about a month. There really wasn't anything of note. I stopped antidepressants for a while because I thought it was contributing to the fatigue. It seemed to help a bit but then it really wasn't the case. I had to start them again but a different one which seems better than the one I was taking before. Some day I would like to get off them but I think I need them right now.

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Re: Looking for feedback/feeling crappy

Post by SnorkelPuss » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:49 pm

[quote="49er"]SnorkelPuss,

Are you in a position to consult with Dr. Avram Gold in NY, a sleep medicine specialist who has worked with alot of patients with fibromyalga? If you aren't, perhaps the office could suggest someone nearby for you to work with.

My heart really goes out to you. It sounds like your doctor's office has no clue as to how to help you as it seems suggesting a therapist for you to see is sidetracking the issue.

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I'm not in NY so no. Not sure what any doctor would be able to do. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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