Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

[Pugsy]

Last night was more comfortable in general. Tried to pay special attention to positioning of the short hose just to see if there was a problem. While there is no "swivel" attachment at the mask level I don't really see that being much of an issue. The short hose is extremely flexible and light weight and long enough that it is really easy to route the hose upwards over the head if a person wants to.
There is probably enough hose to even secure it some how to the top of the head (without it pulling on the nose) if a person wanted to try doing that. There's probably a way but it most likely would take some creativity mainly because the headgear is so minimal I think it would be a challenge to anchor to the headgear. In other words the hose will do it but I don't know how getting it done with the tiny headgear would work...but I bet there's a way.

I still didn't have any rain out at the mask level but temps were a bit milder last night. In 3 or 4 nights we are supposed to have single digit nights again and that usually means my bedroom temps drop significantly so chances of rain out at the mask level (from my exhaled breath) will be greater. No guarantee though...when that happens to me it's hit or miss and most often a small amount since I now use a heated hose.

[~jimnsc]

Pugsy and all early adopters,

I'm curious about two things:
1. Can the hose be run overhead? (TAP PAP does that, and I used to swivel and run the Swift FX hose over my head).
2. What does breath moisture do to the vents in cold weather?

--SleepyCPAP

I use a Hose Buddy all the time and the AirFit's hose is so flexible you don't need a swivel. The tubing from my machine is attached to the Hose Buddy and extends downward from it about 5 inches and I connect the mask's hose directly to it. Works fine.

Cannot speak to breath moisture to vents as I have never experienced moisture from breathing or from rain out. I use a hose cozy year 'round.

Great mask alter two nights using it.

[sleeplessinaz]

I won't be trying this one out due to the headgear is made for one size fits all! This does not work for me! that's a problem when that back strap is not adjustable. I did get sucked into buying the Nuance Pro and even got two spare Small size nasal pillows. That headgear strap stretched out in the back and no way to tighten it up.
Disappointed that I spent my own money out of pocket.

Carrie

[squid13]

That headgear strap stretched out in the back and no way to tighten it up.

If you have a sewing machine all you have to do is take it up some in the back and sew across the strap and it's now shorter. No machine, do it by hand,then take your scissors and cut off the excess.

[Pugsy]

Did quite well again last night with the AirFit P10.
Looks like the headgear is either stretching a little or I am getting used to it. Can't really tell for sure.
It's doesn't seem quite as snug and my nose no longer feels like it ran into someone's fist.
This could very well be my getting used to headgear again...remember I have been using the Tap Pap with no headgear or the Swift FX so loosely fit that it would pretty much fall off if I didn't have air pressure.

If someone has one of those masks with the diffuser on the vent and the P10....maybe you could compare the venting.
I don't have one to compare but when comparing the Swift FX nasal pillows and the P10...there is a HUGE reduction in vented air flow with the P10.

Unless someone has a specific question I think I will let this be my last post simply reporting on using this new mask.

In general...it's a good mask and does a good job. Some people will love it and some people will hate it...just like all the other masks out there.
If vented air is annoying for any reason.....this is a mask to try. I can barely, barely feel air movement out the vent holes with my fingers an inch from the vent holes at about 11 cm pressure.
Plus it is pretty much totally silent.

I can't decide if I like it better than the Swift FX...it's real close and I need more time to decide.
It didn't displace the Tap Pap from number one slot though. Even though the P10 is probably quieter...my own personal preference for less on my face makes the lack of headgear still primary reason for me to use the Tap Pap. Venting noise has never been something that annoyed me and vented air blowing onto spouse was rarely a problem.

We all have our own individual preferences and thus we have to put that old YMMV sticker on any mask out there.
I always tell people...if it interests you and you can afford to buy it..then buy it and at least give it a try.
You will always learn something......even if all that you learn is you hate it. I have done that.
If a mask comes with free return insurance then there's not much reason not to try it if you can afford it.

I won't be returning the AirFit P10. Don't know for sure what I will be doing with it but it may come in handy later.

[idamtnboy]

How stable is it as far as moving up & down by rotating against the nose? I find that if my LT moves the least little bit in a rotating motion I get leaks between the pillow and nare. It has to stay against my nose just so, so as to not leak.

[MitzyG]

Pugsy...have you used the Swift LT ???? If so, how does this one compare, noisewise to the SwiftLT? After using both the Swift FX and LT, I really love LT better. LT has the hose going up and over, fewer mask marks in the morning, quieter vent holes. The only disadvantage? The girl one is blue(?)????

[Pugsy]

have you used the Swift LT ???? If so, how does this one compare, noisewise to the SwiftLT?

Yep, I used the Swift LT as my primary mask until the Swift FX was released..then the Swift FX became primary because of my preference for less stuff and the LT headgear annoyed me because it was too close to my eyes.
Also it seemed to me like the LT vent was noisier to me...go figure.

The AirFit P10 is going to be pretty much totally silent no matter which mask you compare the vent noise to.
That part of the new design was a home run.

How stable is it as far as moving up & down by rotating against the nose? I find that if my LT moves the least little bit in a rotating motion I get leaks between the pillow and nare. It has to stay against my nose just so, so as to not leak.

Seems very stable to me and you know I have always worn my nasal pillows on the loose side. My leak lines have been really good and haven't had leaks wake me up at all....but then leaks rarely have been an issue for me at the nasal pillow level if the headgear is anywhere near close to being tight enough.
You are just going to have to try it to see how it does for you.

[levman]

If someone has one of those masks with the diffuser on the vent and the P10....maybe you could compare the venting.

I switched to the AirFit from the Pilairo Q, which I only used for 45 days (Swift FX before that). Comparing the two, the Pilairo had slightly less air coming off the diffuser (which is amazing considering how little air comes off the AirFit) but with the Pilairo a little air somehow seemed to flow up around my eyes, don't ask me how that happens. No such problem with the AirFit.

AirFit is definitely the quietest of the bunch too.

My only complaint - which isn't really the AirFit's fault - is that I'd hoped it would solve my Transcend travel CPAP's Darth Vader noise problem. No such luck. The interesting thing with the Transcend is that it gets much quieter if you cover up the vent holes, on any/all of these masks. Of course that would NOT be a wise strategy if you want to wake up alive the next morning!

[Sludge]

Mask is adjustable by the changing the location of the rear straps. See insert:

http://www.resmed.com/us/assets/documen ... er_eng.pdf

The lighter more flexible hose and side wings apparently contribute to greater stability.

[RandyJ]

I agree with Pugsy's comments about the venting of this mask - almost imperceptible - a perfect mask for sleeping with a partner. You don't need to be concerned about facing away to avoid venting on your partner.

I found the headgear a bit snug, keeping the pillows tighter to my nose than I prefer. If it loosens up I think the mask will be more comfortable.

[Pugsy]

I found the headgear a bit snug, keeping the pillows tighter to my nose than I prefer. If it loosens up I think the mask will be more comfortable.

It loosens up enough (or did for me) so that the snugness was no longer an issue after about 3 nights with it.....first 2 being the "worst" of the snugness.

I am back on my Tap Pap for a while right now. Been having some TMJ issues with the Swift FX nasal pillow mask so using the mouth guard to help with jaw clenching right now. When I was sick I didn't use the Tap Pap because of nausea so I had quite a bit of time with the Swift FX and had only been back on Tap Pap about a week before I got this P10 mask.
My TMJ on the left had gotten really painful and after one night back on the Tap Pap it is totally pain free.

[sleeplessinaz]

Your dentist can make you a custom fit dental guard to help you with clenching and TMJ. I bought one and it was the best thing I did for myself!

[Pugsy]

Your dentist can make you a custom fit dental guard to help you with clenching and TMJ. I bought one and it was the best thing I did for myself!

Yeah, I know but then I couldn't use the Tap Pap and I really like it. I am to to point with it that I don't notice the mouth guard or the nasal pillows and often wake up feeling like I am not even using the mask and machine.

[john5396]

I got my airfit 2 nights ago. I really like the diffused leak ports, it allows me to cuddle up to my wife without bothering her.

I am a man with a fairly large head, I use an XL Ruby chinstrap, and I find the adjustment is fine to get a good fit with the stetchy headstrap. For me, I have to move the top strap on the Airfit to near my hairline to get the light pressure I want on the pillows.

My previous mask was the swift FX, and I also liked the Aloha.