Vibrational Snoring - What is it?

[billo255]

I've been on a CPAP for about 3 years. Short story is that I've had "brain fog", low energy, and other related symptoms for decades. Had one sleep study at a VA hospital about 3 years ago that was somewhat inconclusive but they put me on a CPAP anyway based on my symptoms and after some experimenting I settled on a full face mask.

I use the machine nightly. I don't have trouble sleeping. I sleep like a log. I'd even done a video once of myself sleeping to see if I was waking up and not realizing it and I hardly moved during the night. Also confirmed using a Zeo sleep clock and wore the headband for weeks to see if my sleep patterns were "normal" or if I were waking up during the night. Everything appeared fine.

I know I snore but my late wife, who was a light sleeper, never seemed affected by it.

My main symptoms, which I know many others can relate to are, difficulty waking up, physical and mental sluggishness, and lack of alertness. The problem of waking up in the morning and being sluggish stretches back to my teens. When I was in my 20's and 30's I could bulldoze through it. In my 50's it's worn me down. I left a good job over a year ago to try to come to grips with, and fix, these problems because they were getting increasingly worse. Now, I'm unemployed without a net, still have the same problems, and pretty freaked out.

Example, I went to bed last night and slept for almost 9 hours straight. Woke up on my own, got up, went to bathroom, put coffee on. One hour later my energy level has tanked and I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open. Brain is sluggish. I'm yawning. Thinking about doing any activity, mental or physical, makes me tired. Right now I feel like I've been up for 24 hours and need a nap. If I were working I'd be useless.

The only significant piece of information that has shown up on a report from the data captured by the CPAP (I'd seen the report a year ago) was a high number for "vibrational snoring". I don't remember what the number was but it was significantly and consistently high. Nothing else appeared consistent or significant enough on the report to explain my symptoms. I'd asked the resident (they rotate residents through periodically) about what vibrational snoring was and he wasn't clear what it meant either but thought that increasing the pressure would help. So far, it hasn't. They've put me on Provigil to help counteract "excessive daytime sleepiness" which seems to work after a few hours but does nothing for the issue I have in the morning. What I've discovered is that if you feel miserable and take Provigil, you'll still feel miserable but be less sleepy.

I have some very limited obstructed breathing issues but nothing that seems to explain the severity of the symptoms. The CPAP helps to some extent. I have slept without it and woken up feeling even more sluggish and worse so I know it provides some positive benefit.

I may be grasping at straws as I haven't found any material on vibrational snoring and have no idea what relevance it has. If anyone has any info on vibrational snoring or can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

[Sir NoddinOff]

A good place to start would be what machine are you using and what are your settings, plus are you willing to change them yourself. You refer to high pressure but aren't specific to how high you went

[OhHelpMe]

Vibrational Snoring - What is it?

Snoring.


The machine will also sometimes pick up vibrations from coughing, talking or rattling the hose and report them as snoring.

[Wulfman...]

I've been on a CPAP for about 3 years. Short story is that I've had "brain fog", low energy, and other related symptoms for decades. Had one sleep study at a VA hospital about 3 years ago that was somewhat inconclusive but they put me on a CPAP anyway based on my symptoms and after some experimenting I settled on a full face mask.

I use the machine nightly. I don't have trouble sleeping. I sleep like a log. I'd even done a video once of myself sleeping to see if I was waking up and not realizing it and I hardly moved during the night. Also confirmed using a Zeo sleep clock and wore the headband for weeks to see if my sleep patterns were "normal" or if I were waking up during the night. Everything appeared fine.

I know I snore but my late wife, who was a light sleeper, never seemed affected by it.

My main symptoms, which I know many others can relate to are, difficulty waking up, physical and mental sluggishness, and lack of alertness. The problem of waking up in the morning and being sluggish stretches back to my teens. When I was in my 20's and 30's I could bulldoze through it. In my 50's it's worn me down. I left a good job over a year ago to try to come to grips with, and fix, these problems because they were getting increasingly worse. Now, I'm unemployed without a net, still have the same problems, and pretty freaked out.

Example, I went to bed last night and slept for almost 9 hours straight. Woke up on my own, got up, went to bathroom, put coffee on. One hour later my energy level has tanked and I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open. Brain is sluggish. I'm yawning. Thinking about doing any activity, mental or physical, makes me tired. Right now I feel like I've been up for 24 hours and need a nap. If I were working I'd be useless.

The only significant piece of information that has shown up on a report from the data captured by the CPAP (I'd seen the report a year ago) was a high number for "vibrational snoring". I don't remember what the number was but it was significantly and consistently high. Nothing else appeared consistent or significant enough on the report to explain my symptoms. I'd asked the resident (they rotate residents through periodically) about what vibrational snoring was and he wasn't clear what it meant either but thought that increasing the pressure would help. So far, it hasn't. They've put me on Provigil to help counteract "excessive daytime sleepiness" which seems to work after a few hours but does nothing for the issue I have in the morning. What I've discovered is that if you feel miserable and take Provigil, you'll still feel miserable but be less sleepy.

I have some very limited obstructed breathing issues but nothing that seems to explain the severity of the symptoms. The CPAP helps to some extent. I have slept without it and woken up feeling even more sluggish and worse so I know it provides some positive benefit.

I may be grasping at straws as I haven't found any material on vibrational snoring and have no idea what relevance it has. If anyone has any info on vibrational snoring or can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

Please fill out your profile with your exact equipment (machine and mask) you use......make, model, etc. Also, please add the machine settings.......pressure, humidity, etc.

If you're still having those symptoms, it indicates your settings aren't optimal.......or you're losing your therapy air out your mouth while you sleep.......if you're using a nasal mask (as opposed to a full face mask).

If your machine was able to provide a report to those monitoring your therapy, you should be able to monitor your own therapy on your own computer (as most of the software is available to the end user for nominal prices or FREE). And, I would strongly encourage you to do so.

"Snoring" is an indication that there may be nasal obstructions......deviated septum, enlarged turbinates, allergies, among some of the possibilities. Also, "snoring" is "sound effects" made when a person INHALES air.......either through their nose or through their mouth if their nose is congested and they have to mouth-breathe. Machines only record snoring on the inhale cycle......not coughing or talking......but possibly rubbing the hose against an object (while on the inhale cycle).
Snoring MAY or MAY NOT adversely your sleep, but, like I said, if you're still having it, there's an indication that your therapy is NOT optimal and you need to do something about it.


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[Wulfman...]

Meant to say.....

Snoring MAY or MAY NOT adversely affect your sleep, but, like I said, if you're still having it, there's an indication that your therapy is NOT optimal and you need to do something about it.


Den

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[avi123]

The term Vibrational Snore I see it in Respironics machines but not in Resmed's.

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