OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
You should also know that booze will alter your sleep cycle. It tends towards (but not preventing) you from stage 3 and REM stages of sleep. Long term abuse has be documented to keep a person in stage2 while sleeping. While you will get to sleep faster, by not cycling thru stages 3 and REM on those nites you have a drink, will cause lethargy the next day.
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/alerts/l/blnaa41.htm
http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/ ... ep-hygiene
rpsgt who see it happening .....as in ppl coming to a sleep study tipsy
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/alerts/l/blnaa41.htm
http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/ ... ep-hygiene
rpsgt who see it happening .....as in ppl coming to a sleep study tipsy
Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
Here's a tip: never put bourbon in your humidifier reservoir. Trust me.
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
I was thinking that would work well lol
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
And also don't attempt to drink it while wearing a full face mask.chezdan9 wrote:Here's a tip: never put bourbon in your humidifier reservoir. Trust me.
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
Reminds me of my drinking problem:BlackSpinner wrote:And also don't attempt to drink it while wearing a full face mask.chezdan9 wrote:Here's a tip: never put bourbon in your humidifier reservoir. Trust me.
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
My doctor has never said anything about alcohol to me. I'm not a heavy drinker, but I do enjoy craft beer, wine, and whiskies. In three months I haven't seen alcohol make any difference to my OSA or CSA. With that said, it certainly affects my sleep architecture. If I have more than one or two drinks, I'm sure to fall asleep fast but be wide awake 3-4 hours later and done for the night.
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
I have moderat CSA with Hypopneas.
When I have a night of substantial drinking, my ahi is almost always significantly lower the next morning. My 30 day average is 1.5. Last saturday I went out for a christmas party and was quite drunk when I went to bed(I rarely do this.) I woke up8 hours later with a .7 ahi.
When I have a night of substantial drinking, my ahi is almost always significantly lower the next morning. My 30 day average is 1.5. Last saturday I went out for a christmas party and was quite drunk when I went to bed(I rarely do this.) I woke up8 hours later with a .7 ahi.
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I thought that was where they got the term "Hot Totty (sp?)"chezdan9 wrote:Here's a tip: never put bourbon in your humidifier reservoir. Trust me.
And, NO, I am NOT drinking right now!
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
I just called my doctor to report back on something she had asked me about when I saw her a few weeks ago. I thought I would get the receptionist and the doctor would call back eventually, since it wasn't an emergency. To my surprise, the doctor answered the phone herself.
We discussed the reason I had called and then I asked her about... this thread. She had a good laugh and told me not to drink and drive and that having a drink or two wasn't going to hurt me one bit. If I have a drink or two a year that's a lot for me, but I wanted to get her opinion since this was not something we had ever discussed. She is a pulmonary sleep specialist and highly regarded in my area. End of story.
We discussed the reason I had called and then I asked her about... this thread. She had a good laugh and told me not to drink and drive and that having a drink or two wasn't going to hurt me one bit. If I have a drink or two a year that's a lot for me, but I wanted to get her opinion since this was not something we had ever discussed. She is a pulmonary sleep specialist and highly regarded in my area. End of story.
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Thanks ems, mighty appreciated. I think I might have a beer tonight with my friends:)ems wrote:I just called my doctor to report back on something she had asked me about when I saw her a few weeks ago. I thought I would get the receptionist and the doctor would call back eventually, since it wasn't an emergency. To my surprise, the doctor answered the phone herself.
We discussed the reason I had called and then I asked her about... this thread. She had a good laugh and told me not to drink and drive and that having a drink or two wasn't going to hurt me one bit. If I have a drink or two a year that's a lot for me, but I wanted to get her opinion since this was not something we had ever discussed. She is a pulmonary sleep specialist and highly regarded in my area. End of story.
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
All of my sleep specialists have warned me about taking sedating drugs and drinking booze. I find it difficult to believe, truly difficult...very skeptical...that most on here who have been told they have OSA have also not had a discussion with their sleep physician about booze and apnea.
Eric
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep- ... sk-factors
"Use of alcohol, sedatives or tranquilizers. These substances relax the muscles in your throat."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/1 ... 86434.html
"It Makes Sleep Problems You Already Have Even Worse
Alcohol decreases muscle tone in the upper airway, meaning that breathing-related sleep issues are exacerbated after you've had a couple of drinks, Mehra says. That's especially bad news for people with obstructive sleep apnea, who stop breathing for short periods during sleep when their airway is blocked: Since alcohol makes the airways especially collapsible, people suffering from sleep apnea tend stop breathing more frequently and for longer periods after drinking. The reduced muscle tone from even a couple of drinks also aggravates less serious, but more familiar, problems. "It worsens snoring," Mehra says. "I can attest to that with my husband."
Eric
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep- ... sk-factors
"Use of alcohol, sedatives or tranquilizers. These substances relax the muscles in your throat."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/1 ... 86434.html
"It Makes Sleep Problems You Already Have Even Worse
Alcohol decreases muscle tone in the upper airway, meaning that breathing-related sleep issues are exacerbated after you've had a couple of drinks, Mehra says. That's especially bad news for people with obstructive sleep apnea, who stop breathing for short periods during sleep when their airway is blocked: Since alcohol makes the airways especially collapsible, people suffering from sleep apnea tend stop breathing more frequently and for longer periods after drinking. The reduced muscle tone from even a couple of drinks also aggravates less serious, but more familiar, problems. "It worsens snoring," Mehra says. "I can attest to that with my husband."
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There is a HUGE difference between having an occasional drink and having 3-4 drinks every day or before bed time. Use your head!SuddenlyWornOut45 wrote:All of my sleep specialists have warned me about taking sedating drugs and drinking booze. I find it difficult to believe, truly difficult...very skeptical...that most on here who have been told they have OSA have also not had a discussion with their sleep physician about booze and apnea.
Eric
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep- ... sk-factors
"Use of alcohol, sedatives or tranquilizers. These substances relax the muscles in your throat."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/1 ... 86434.html
"It Makes Sleep Problems You Already Have Even Worse
Alcohol decreases muscle tone in the upper airway, meaning that breathing-related sleep issues are exacerbated after you've had a couple of drinks, Mehra says. That's especially bad news for people with obstructive sleep apnea, who stop breathing for short periods during sleep when their airway is blocked: Since alcohol makes the airways especially collapsible, people suffering from sleep apnea tend stop breathing more frequently and for longer periods after drinking. The reduced muscle tone from even a couple of drinks also aggravates less serious, but more familiar, problems. "It worsens snoring," Mehra says. "I can attest to that with my husband."
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Only one... and don't drink and drive.bavinck wrote:Thanks ems, mighty appreciated. I think I might have a beer tonight with my friends:)ems wrote:I just called my doctor to report back on something she had asked me about when I saw her a few weeks ago. I thought I would get the receptionist and the doctor would call back eventually, since it wasn't an emergency. To my surprise, the doctor answered the phone herself.
We discussed the reason I had called and then I asked her about... this thread. She had a good laugh and told me not to drink and drive and that having a drink or two wasn't going to hurt me one bit. If I have a drink or two a year that's a lot for me, but I wanted to get her opinion since this was not something we had ever discussed. She is a pulmonary sleep specialist and highly regarded in my area. End of story.
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Did you show up drunk for your Doctor appointment?SuddenlyWornOut45 wrote:All of my sleep specialists have warned me about taking sedating drugs and drinking booze. I find it difficult to believe, truly difficult...very skeptical...that most on here who have been told they have OSA have also not had a discussion with their sleep physician about booze and apnea.
Eric
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep- ... sk-factors
"Use of alcohol, sedatives or tranquilizers. These substances relax the muscles in your throat."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/1 ... 86434.html
"It Makes Sleep Problems You Already Have Even Worse
Alcohol decreases muscle tone in the upper airway, meaning that breathing-related sleep issues are exacerbated after you've had a couple of drinks, Mehra says. That's especially bad news for people with obstructive sleep apnea, who stop breathing for short periods during sleep when their airway is blocked: Since alcohol makes the airways especially collapsible, people suffering from sleep apnea tend stop breathing more frequently and for longer periods after drinking. The reduced muscle tone from even a couple of drinks also aggravates less serious, but more familiar, problems. "It worsens snoring," Mehra says. "I can attest to that with my husband."
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Re: OSA + CPAP + booze = ?
Do you have an Auto-CPAP machine? If you do, and if you have 3-4 drinks one night before bed, you will get a chance to see the machine earn its keep.
I usually am a one (craft) beer a night guy, but every few months I'll have a few. On those nights, instead of my Auto-CPAP staying steady with a pressure around 9.5 to 10, it'll frequently go up to 11.5 or 12 for a period of time.
So yes, in the spirit of experimenting (my gift to you all) I can confirm that the drinking does impact sleep apnea, but also can show that the auto-CPAP increases pressure to keep your SpO2 where it needs to be.
As St. Thomas Aquinas used to say, "Everything in Moderation, including Moderation!"
I'll drink to that!
John
I usually am a one (craft) beer a night guy, but every few months I'll have a few. On those nights, instead of my Auto-CPAP staying steady with a pressure around 9.5 to 10, it'll frequently go up to 11.5 or 12 for a period of time.
So yes, in the spirit of experimenting (my gift to you all) I can confirm that the drinking does impact sleep apnea, but also can show that the auto-CPAP increases pressure to keep your SpO2 where it needs to be.
As St. Thomas Aquinas used to say, "Everything in Moderation, including Moderation!"
I'll drink to that!
John
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