Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

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Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Lazer1234 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:09 am

Hello! I'm from Sweden and uses APAP (ResMed S9 autoset) I have most central apner. I wonder if any couples sleep disorders with bacterial infections? Borrelia bacteria often affects the cranial nerves glossopharyngeal and vagus related to the respiratory muscles. Bacteria also affect the nerves that have to do with going to the bathroom frequently at night.
Is there anyone who has been bitten by a tick but not linked it to sleep problems?
I have translated this with Google translation, so you have to excuse the spelling.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Julie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:28 am

Hi, it is a bit difficult to understand what you're asking, but one thing I think is that frequent bathroom visits at night are linked to high blood pressure affecting the kidneys, and Cpap usually helps the BP to go down.

If you' have central apnea, I would think you'd be on a different machine - an Avap, or another type, because Cpap does NOT treat central apnea and can make it worse. Maybe talk to a sleep doctor to find out more.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Lazer1234 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:34 pm

I mean if there is anyone who believes that lyme disease can cause sleep disorders?

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by NeedHelp2 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:37 pm

Lazer1234 wrote:I mean if there is anyone who believes that lyme disease can cause sleep disorders?
Yes, lyme disease can cause many disorders, including sleep disorders.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:51 pm

The cause is not relevant once you have the sleep disorder.
--only for prevention.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Lazer1234 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:06 pm

Yes, I know. My research is for my children and grandchildren. I have had sleep disorders, heart attack, brain fog, poor short-term memory, pain in neck and back pain, tremor m, m, I want to try to teach my children and grandchildren to pay attention if they get a bacterial infection and treat it in time.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by NeedHelp2 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:14 pm

Lazer1234 wrote:Yes, I know. My research is for my children and grandchildren. I have had sleep disorders, heart attack, brain fog, poor short-term memory, pain in neck and back pain, tremor m, m, I want to try to teach my children and grandchildren to pay attention if they get a bacterial infection and treat it in time.
Very wise.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by CowFish » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:13 pm

Lazer1234 wrote:Hello! I'm from Sweden and uses APAP (ResMed S9 autoset) I have most central apner. I wonder if any couples sleep disorders with bacterial infections? Borrelia bacteria often affects the cranial nerves glossopharyngeal and vagus related to the respiratory muscles. Bacteria also affect the nerves that have to do with going to the bathroom frequently at night.
Is there anyone who has been bitten by a tick but not linked it to sleep problems?
I have translated this with Google translation, so you have to excuse the spelling.
Obstructive sleep apnea:
Many Lyme patients have neurologic dysfunction of the palate and uvula which may contribute to this disorder.
Central sleep apnea:
... brain abnormalities of Lyme may be a contributing factor.
Blog at http://lymemd.blogspot.com/2008/06/lyme-and-sleep.html

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by CowFish » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:15 pm

Lazer1234 wrote:Hello! I'm from Sweden and uses APAP (ResMed S9 autoset) I have most central apner.
This worries me. I don't think that is the right machine to treat central sleep apnea. You may need an ASV for central apnea.

Maybe some more knowledgeable member can comment.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by bluesky5 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:45 pm

Lazer,

you are right that bacteria can destroy the muscles and the nerves causing sleep apnea.
I am trying to find out the cause as I am not willing to live with the machine forever.
We are not born with the apnea, something must have happened. I started different treatments.

Please pm me if you want to discuss details.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Julie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:54 pm

I believe some people are born with the elements necessary for apnea to start up, even as infants (there are some known), but it's a relatively recent diagnosis for anyone, and medicine is still trying to catch up and fill in some blanks, let alone educate doctors about it. There are very small children on Cpap. But even if you find one cause it will not necessarily mean you don't have to use Cpap because if, e.g., it's a neurological problem, or even a respiratory one and/or anatomical with regard to jaw shape, etc., there may still not be another fix known or available. I understand your wanting to not have to use it, but compared to a lot of other medical or general problems people face, it's not half as bad and most of us live relatively normal lives with it.

One thing I do believe is that we need to be very careful about blaming everything under the sun on e.g. Lyme disease (terrible as it may be for some people, no question there) because as we get older other problems come up alongside apnea but have nothing to do with it, or only incidentally may get involved, and if you have some nails, everything looks like a hammer... don't assume all your problems are due to apnea (or Cpap) or Lyme.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Lazer1234 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:36 pm

Julie:
It's fine that people accept their illness and are satisfied with it. But I would like to know why things turned out as it has become.
I am not happy about one thing works, I want to know why it works well.
I keep on adding the puzzle of my life, and more and more pieces fall into place.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Julie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:42 pm

Oh by all means go for it - I was just saying to be careful about blaming it all on one thing (or another) because we do tend to do that according to what is newest in our life... and forget about other possible causes.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by oak » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:43 pm

lazer, a Resmed S9 Autoset will not treat central apneas. you need a different kind of machine for that. do you know what your AHI averages are? if you are averaging under 5, it may not be an issue. but if you have MANY central apneas each night, it would be wise to go back to your doctor to discuss this.

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Re: Bacteria/Sleep Apnea?

Post by Lazer1234 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:59 pm

No, I do not have many central apner when I sleep with apap. Less than 1 AHI. But I have ordered on sleep report I made in the past to see how many I had when it was made. I get it in a few days. I know that AHI was 41 without apap.

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