SleepyHead Series 60 - Testing Request

[Pugsy]

Seems to think the machine is a Bi-PAP and that, according to the AHI anyway, I am dead.

I think someone else has reported whacko data with the patch on their 560 machine. Same thing with obvious way too high AHI which we knew happened with the BiPap.
I don't know why the software thinks you have a BiPap... obviously some sort of bug that will need to be sorted out.
I don't do that sort of stuff. Way beyond my skill level.

If you want accurate reporting you will have to use EncoreBasic for the time being while Mark gets these issues sorted out.
If you have the skills to help then go for it.

I don't remember..did I send you EncoreBasic stuff?

[khauser]

I ran Encore Basic for those same 3 days in case it helps (I *hate* how slow that program is):

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[khauser]

I don't remember..did I send you EncoreBasic stuff?

I think I may have answered that posting at the same time as you

[rich0]

Seems to think the machine is a Bi-PAP and that, according to the AHI anyway, I am dead.

PM me about sending data if you're interested. Also, I'd be interested in the output of your debug pane (if you're running the latest patched version I posted that should have some useful info. I thought I'd fixed the weird AHI numbers.

One of the issues is that I don't have data from a variety of 60-series machines, so I can pretty-much only guarantee that it works with the datasets I've been sent. Since we don't have formal documentation there might be a bit of trial and error to sort the various models out. The debug output includes info that indicates the model codes in the data, and if I know that and the model of machine that you have I can build up a table, and make sure the right models get treated in the right way. Right now things vary a little depending on whether you have a CPAP/APAP, BiPAP, or AutoSV.

As far as your compile issues go - I've yet to try building it on QT v5 on Windows. I'd recommend going with one of the v4 versions (whatever is considered stable and current). QT v5 is pretty cutting edge and very little software works with it. Mark is working on porting it over in the hopes of getting some OSX issues fixed with printing, but it will be a while before it is ready for prime time. Until we get that sorted out we'll be releasing with v4. From an end-user standpoint there really is no difference, besides fewer bugs.

[khauser]

PM sent

[rich0]

PM sent

Ok, a fix for this is in git. I updated the windows builds as well. Let me know how this works for you - I'll try to update the OSX build at some point...

[khauser]

Thanks! It'll be statuary before I can try it.

I'm unsuccessful at running the latest(before this change) from git, though I fix get it to build. It hanna at the start screen, never showing the summary.
Also, can't debug. Cdb quits at startup.

[rich0]

Thanks! It'll be statuary before I can try it.

I'm unsuccessful at running the latest(before this change) from git, though I fix get it to build. It hanna at the start screen, never showing the summary.
Also, can't debug. Cdb quits at startup.

If this is on linux and gdb quits at startup then there is likely something wrong with your distro/install. Post the error message it gives you and I might be able to figure out what is going on.

[khauser]

It's in Windows, not linux ... but I do have a linux machine I could try this on. Maybe this weekend.

[rich0]

It's in Windows, not linux ... but I do have a linux machine I could try this on. Maybe this weekend.

Ah, it builds fine under qt-creator with qt-4.8.4. If you're using qt-5 all bets are off - a lot changed in v5 and I suspect it will be a while before it is fully supported. Very few software packages even support it, and I'm not aware of any linux distros that ship it standard as a result.

[khauser]

Nope ... using 4.8.4, and again, it builds fine.

If I try to debug it from Qt Creator I get gdb.exe has stopped working from Windows, and Unexpected GDB Exit - The gdb process has terminated.

If I just run SleepyHead (no debug) I get to select my profile and then it opens the usual windows (Statistics, Daily and Help Browser) along with the navigtation bar, but it hangs at 100% loading data. The debug windows only shows the initial "SleepyHead v0.9.3 with Qt 4.8.4 on Feb 10 2013" line followed by two Loading traces, one for "Journal_00000d1c" and one for "PRS1_P01251416CEAA".

The released SleepyHead continues to work fine (again, I haven't gotten your latest yet).

I also tried attaching to the process, but the same GDB error occurred.

I appear to have misled you by mentioning CDB earlier. I had two out of 3 correct!

-Kevin

[jagzoo]

Hi Pugsy,

Do you have a link for either encore basic or pro? I would love to be able to compare it with the sleepy head data. Also to see just what my sleep doctor will see when I go in. I can run either Windows or Mac OS.

Thanks.

[rich0]

Do you have a link for either encore basic or pro? I would love to be able to compare it with the sleepy head data. Also to see just what my sleep doctor will see when I go in. I can run either Windows or Mac OS.

FYI - if your comparison shows any discrepancies I'm all ears. While I find SH more useful I would expect EP to be more authoritative. When there is a difference I should be able to dig into the data files and figure out why. (Usually though if there is a problem you'll just not get any data imported, or just partial data, or complete garbage.)

One thing most probably do not realize is that there are a bunch of events recorded by the machine that don't show up in SH or EP. SH detects them and takes them into account, but we generally don't display these because nobody has any idea what they mean. For my machine I have the software dump a debug log when they come up, but I've yet to associate them with any kind of real-world event or pattern in the pressure/flow data. Right now only the engineers who built the machine know what they mean...

[Pugsy]

Do you have a link for either encore basic or pro? I would love to be able to compare it with the sleepy head data. Also to see just what my sleep doctor will see when I go in. I can run either Windows or Mac OS.

Check your PM box. Windows only unless you want to run in virtual Windows on the Mac.

EncoreGuide link this will show you examples of what you will see. For a different machine than yours but the basics are the same.
http://www.healthcare.philips.com/pwc_h ... _Guide.pdf

I have both for my PR S1 machine. Never had any discrepancies at all. Now some of the data that SleepyHead reports...Encore doesn't unless you might see it on a ASV report like above. So while the machine might gather the data and SleepyHead reports it Encore doesn't. So there is no way to compare some of the data that SleepyHead reports.

Regarding Pro vs Basic. The reports are identical. I know because I also have Pro and I compared them. Pro doesn't offer anything over what Basic offers. The main difference is that Basic no longer needs the huge problematic SQL database thing which caused a lot of problems with the Pro install. Also Basic doesn't care if the computer is 32 or 64 bit...Pro cares.
There simply is no real reason to use Pro anymore. Install failure rates on Pro was about 1 in 5. I can count on one hand the number of failures for Basic install.
None of the Encore software will install on Windows 8. The problem is with the installer. There is a work around though and it involves just moving an already installed Basic to the Win 8 computer. A copy of my installed version or if someone has a Win 7 computer they can do the same thing with it.

[SleeplessCanadian]

Hello I'm trying to get some software to work with my "System One RemStar Pro with C-Flex+ (461CA)", currently trying SleepyHead v.0.9.3, looks like i'm able to import data now ... but would like to see what my other options are ... I've seen reference to encore basic ... is that the same as encore viewer? ... I've tried encore viewer 2 but it won't import the data.

I believe encore pro 2.4 would work but I have no idea how to get it, I know the place where I got the unit from is on encore anywhere ... is that something I can subscribe to?

Sorry if I sounds like such a noob but just trying to wrap my head around this ... seems like this should not be so difficult after paying so much for a machine just to view data.