dental cream/fixadent on mouth works better than tape for me

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Better Option

Post by Guestttt » Mon May 15, 2006 11:56 am

I've found that Krazy Glue gives a better seal, plus you don't have to use as much -- just a thin line -- so there's less mess. Dries to a seal much quicker than Fixodent, too. In the morning, I just rub some vaseline on it and then rub it off with a copper Brillo pad, which has an anti-germicidal effect to boot.


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Re: Better Option

Post by CPAPyrus Scribe » Mon May 15, 2006 12:06 pm

[quote="Guestttt"]I've found that Krazy Glue gives a better seal, plus you don't have to use as much -- just a thin line -- so there's less mess. Dries to a seal much quicker than Fixodent, too. In the morning, I just rub some vaseline on it and then rub it off with a copper Brillo pad, which has an anti-germicidal effect to boot.


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Different Device for Mouth Breathers?

Post by MouthBreather » Tue May 16, 2006 12:17 pm

Hi -- I'm a mouth breather who is having a lot of difficulty with nasal pillows (i'm on the Swift). I can't use a full-face mask because I'm claustrophobic. And taping or Fixodent haven't worked out either.

My DME recently recommended the following device, because chin straps haven't kept my jaw shut:

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Has anyone used one of these and can you comment on its comfort, convenience, and effectiveness?

Thanks!


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Re: Different Device for Mouth Breathers?

Post by MouthBreather » Tue May 16, 2006 12:29 pm

[quote="MouthBreather"]Hi -- I'm a mouth breather who is having a lot of difficulty with nasal pillows (i'm on the Swift). I can't use a full-face mask because I'm claustrophobic. And taping or Fixodent haven't worked out either.

My DME recently recommended the following device, because chin straps haven't kept my jaw shut:

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Has anyone used one of these and can you comment on its comfort, convenience, and effectiveness?

Thanks!


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Post by jcarn » Tue May 16, 2006 12:56 pm

just bought some strips .. looking forward to trying out this idea.

Only concern I have is that I get pretty drymouthed at night. Constantly have to drink water. Hopefully it's related to mouthbreathing.

Anyone run into this with strips?

Thanks!

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Post by oldgearhead » Tue May 16, 2006 1:40 pm

MouthBreather - The item you indicated works quite well for me, as long
as it's worn by the 'other participant...

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Tue May 16, 2006 2:15 pm

jcarn wrote:just bought some strips .. looking forward to trying out this idea.

Only concern I have is that I get pretty drymouthed at night. Constantly have to drink water. Hopefully it's related to mouthbreathing.

Anyone run into this with strips?

Thanks!
Best night I had yet last night, with the Poligrip strips. My leak rate graph showed almost an entire night of a straight line and my rate dropped about 10 liters. I didn't think it was a mouth breathing problem, but obviously it was. They pop right off in the morning and work really well. Not overly sticky. Hope it works as well for you and you won't end up dry mouthed. Maybe this is your answer.

If not, you can always try what "Mouth Breather" posted...
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Please detail the application of the strips

Post by bhoffman57 » Fri May 19, 2006 9:32 am

I am very interested in the polygrip strips. I am a mouth breather and can not tape (mustache & beard). I was reluctant to use the cream, and the strips sound like the answer.

I was reading about how to apply and am still a little confused...do I just place the strips on the corners of my mouth or do I cover the entire lip? Please elaborate.

I am also trying to get a full face mask. I contacted my DME who said I need a prescription. I have a call into my doctor.

Many thanks to all on this site. The information I have found here has been educational, physically beneficial, and emotionally soothing.

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Post by Snoozin' Bluezzz » Fri May 19, 2006 9:39 am

All I can say is EXPERIMENT and see what works for you. I cut them in half crosswise and put 1/2 on one side of my lips and 1/2 on the other side leaving a small section with no adhesive. It works for me. I don't know how other folks do it. Cuts down drooling as well.

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Thanks

Post by bhoffman57 » Fri May 19, 2006 9:42 am

Thanks for the extremely speedy reply. I went back on to edit my post (correct a misspelled word that made it through spellcheck) and already found a reply! This site and it's participants are a true gift.

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mouth breathing

Post by Ellen » Fri May 19, 2006 10:40 am

I got the NoseBreathe appliance from quietsleep.com and am THRILLED with it - no taping, no messy (and expensive) dental creams - it is a mouthpiece that fits the upper teeth with a shelf across the front of the palate to place the tongue on - when machined is turned on, the air pressure down your throat creates IMHO a "vacuum" in the mouth which keeps lips against mouthpiece, thus stopping mouth breathing.

I love it.

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Post by roster » Fri May 19, 2006 1:14 pm

Ellen,

The website quietsleep.com specifically says "N.B.: Quietsleep.com does not sell oral appliances. In the United States, oral appliance therapy is only available in dental offices from dentists who have special training."

So where did you get the appliance?

Nose Breathe appliances are available from http://www.nosebreathe.com. They list these appliances: " $82.00 for the Nose Breathe Mouthpiece, $230.00 for the Nose Breathe for Heavy Snorer".

Which one did you get?

These appliances are discussed on several other threads on cpaptalk.com and my interpretation is that very few people have success with them. So I am a little hesitant to invest my money on one. How many nights have you used the appliance?

Taping works quite well for me however, if I can pop an appliance in and out of my mouth and get good results, I will be happy to make the investment and forget the taping. I know different things work for different people but, if you can give us some more comments, it will help me estimate the probability that the device will work for me.

Thanks for any additional comments,

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Fri May 19, 2006 1:25 pm

Ellen,

My problem with the NB device was, it caused me to over-salivate, so much so that it became a new problem that would cause arousals. I emailed Dr. Sue and he told me it would stop over time, but it never did so I stopped using it.

I think it's safe to say that I've tried everything and I am finding the best thing for me is either the Polygrip strips or a small strip of Tegaderm. But what works for me may not work for you or others. It's such a personal preference type of deal when it comes to this issue, any just about everything treatment-related.

I hope you continue to like and have good luck with your NB device.
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tried the strips and got a great nights sleep

Post by bhoffman57 » Sat May 20, 2006 5:57 am

I was worried about using the strips or cream - would it work? would it hold? Could I open my mouth if needed? Was there a bad taste?

I went out and bought the strips and used as instructed by David (thanks). I tore it in half and taped the corners, leaving a small untaped area in the center of my mouth.

To my surprise and delight, the strips worked perfectly! As said in prior posts, they are kind of a 'reminder to you mouth' to keep closed.

I had an occasional air puff which easily escaped through the center untaped area, but the opening was too small to allow full mouth breathing.

I got a fantastic nights sleep (the first in weeks), and when I awoke I was able to open my mouth with no trouble at all. A warm wash cloth and the tape came right off. No mess, no bad taste, no problems!!!


I am sold!!!


Thanks to all for solving this problem for me.

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Post by Guest » Sat May 20, 2006 6:59 am

Yeaaaaaa!

Feels good, doesn't it. I wish I had more of those but the worst on xPAP is better than the best without.

David