Encore Pro 2 Can't get more than weeks worth detailed data

[charlestek]

I'm trying to use Encore Pro. Despite the fact that I choose say a 30 day range of therapy data, the generated report only shows detailed daily night data for the past week.
I can't believe you can't look at detailed nightly data beyond 7 days ago.

Can someone help on this?

Thanks

[Pugsy]

I can't believe you can't look at detailed nightly data beyond 7 days ago.

It's a crappy fact of life for all Encore software programs...no matter how many days you select your report to include it will only show the most recent 7 days of detailed reports.

To make the older 7 days detailed reports you have to set the ending date to include the older nights and you can see the most recent 7 days of the detailed dates you select.
So the old detailed reports are available but it takes a bit of special tweaking on the selected dates to get the older reports.
Big PITA I know but that the way Respironics has always done it.

Example....If you want to see the detailed reports for say Feb 1 to Feb 7...you have to have the ending date selected as Feb 7.
You can include what ever summary data prior to that date but it will only give you Feb 1 to 7th detailed reports.

So those old detailed reports are available but you have to do a lot of work to get them. There is no quick way around it.

If you chose a year's worth of statistics...you still only get the most recent 7 days of detailed reports if you are using the ending date as today.

This is where SleepyHead is far superior..just a quick click of the calendar lets you review past detailed reports.

Sorry, no magic quick fix for this little annoyance with any Encore software...Pro, Viewer or even Basic.

Only other alternative is to save the entire report as PDF once a week and review each PDF report separately...PITA too.

[Wulfman...]

I'm trying to use Encore Pro. Despite the fact that I choose say a 30 day range of therapy data, the generated report only shows detailed daily night data for the past week.
I can't believe you can't look at detailed nightly data beyond 7 days ago.

Can someone help on this?

Thanks

That's the way it works! Always has, since Encore Pro was conceived. If you want the details, you need to download the card at least once a week.

Den

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[Pugsy]

Remember this software was designed for DMEs and doctors offices and most often if (that's a big IF) those people even bother to look at the detailed data they would probably just quickly review the most recent 7 nights. They aren't going to want to go back last month or 3 months ago or whatever. They will normally only want to review a few of the most recent detailed reports.

What I did for the detailed reports I though I might want to review later...I just made a screen shot of them and stuck them in a folder just for the detailed reports. Less time consuming then looking through multiple PDFs.
Be consistent with your naming and the images of the reports will be in chronological order.

Eventually the need or desire to look at the old reports sort of diminished anyway.

[charlestek]

This is absolutely incredible. I would use a choice number of detailed 4 letter words to describe it.

I never like Respironics machines by choice, I hate them, I hate the menu inside the machine as it tells you next to nothing, I therefore hate the reporting.

I was used to ResMed, but it happens I need an Auto SV machine and the ResMed one did not work as well as the Respironics (which I still find hard to believe).

So I'm stuck with Respironics.

Can someone reference the SleepyHead software to me?

This is pretty maddening, I don't have all day to make some detailed reports from my machine.

[Pugsy]

I have SleepyHead software links in my signature.
It has been problematic for some PR S1 ASV users though...if it is then try the 60 series patch even if your machine is not 60 series.
viewtopic/t83551/SleepyHead-Series-60-Patch-Avail.html

Here's a hint that will save you a bit of time and aggravation.
If your OS is Windows Vista, 7 or 8....when you do the install instead of double click on the setup files to install the regular way..right click on the setup files and choose "run as administrator" from the menu. This avoids a little headache with the updates. Note, this is in addition to your user account having administrator privileges.

Cross your fingers....some PR S1 ASV users have great luck and some don't in regards to compatibility with SH.

[Wulfman...]

This is absolutely incredible. I would use a choice number of detailed 4 letter words to describe it.

I never like Respironics machines by choice, I hate them, I hate the menu inside the machine as it tells you next to nothing, I therefore hate the reporting.

I was used to ResMed, but it happens I need an Auto SV machine and the ResMed one did not work as well as the Respironics (which I still find hard to believe).

So I'm stuck with Respironics.

Can someone reference the SleepyHead software to me?

This is pretty maddening, I don't have all day to make some detailed reports from my machine.

Unless they've changed VERY recently, ResMed only kept detailed data for 7 nights, too.

I guess they all figure that if people are REALLY interested in the "details", they'll download them more frequently.


Den

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[charlestek]

Trying SleepyHead. Sd card has info that says "P Series". Sleepyhead does not seem to be able to import it.

[Pugsy]

Are you including the P Series line in the navigation or are you stopping at the drive letter where the SD card sits?
If you are including the P Series folder in the box for choosing path you have gone too far.
Navigate only to the drive letter...don't try to go to P Series folder.
Most common error..people point to P Series folder and not the drive letter...I know it's weird but having it this way enables multiple machine brands. If SH always looked for P Series then it wouldn't work with ResMed and the other brands.

[charlestek]

Pugsy,

Got it, at the root level of the sd card. Unfortunately to send the doctor information, I have to go day by day and print the daily report then convert to pdf, going to be tedious.

[Pugsy]

I don't know about Pro but EncoreBasic has an option where you can tell it to automatically save the report in PDF format with the download.
It's something that is in the settings you can make as a default.
Under "Post download Action".
So that it would create a PDF automatically after the download but I bet it doesn't include the detailed report...but I haven't ever done it to confirm it.

Does your doctor actually look at 30 days of detailed reports?
If he does...you can do a download once a week and get them once a week as pdf and email.
It doesn't take half a day or anything like that but I know it isn't what you want.
Unfortunately the software simply won't do what you want it to do.
Most DMEs and doctors don't look at the detailed reports...they look at the summary report...hours of use and average AHI.

[Wulfman...]

Pugsy,

Got it, at the root level of the sd card. Unfortunately to send the doctor information, I have to go day by day and print the daily report then convert to pdf, going to be tedious.

There's some software that will install as a printer and create small .pdf files when you instruct it to print. One that I've been using for years is called CutePDF. It's free to download and works really slick. I use it daily and to save other articles I read on the Internet. The size of the .pdf files is about 10% of the size created by the Encore programs.

Den

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[charlestek]

I don't have problems making a pdf from a print out page, I just object that I have to go each day by day and print one daily report at a time with Sleepyhead. Sort of the defeats the purpose of having a computer program to do the work in the first place.

ResMed software is great, you can have it print detailed reports for months as one batch with no effort.

And yes my doctor wants the individual data and flow and tidal volume and everything else. He looks at it all, he is not your normal fly by night sleep doctor.
And yes he would want it for a month or months to look at how I was doing.

I use an oral appliance plus the cpap mask which is non vented with some extra special tubing and valving to capture a portion of the CO2 I exhale, which I rebreathe back into my system to stabilize
the breathing.

[Pugsy]

Well, SleepyHead was developed by a Respironics user for patient's use and not to make doctors happy.

It may not suit your own personal needs for your situation but the data collected has a lot more data than Encore actually reports for most machines. None of my Encore reports mentions anything about tidal volume or those minute detailed graphs that SH reports.
This is what Encore reports for the ASV machine.
http://www.healthcare.philips.com/pwc_h ... _Guide.pdf

[charlestek]

With sleepyhead, I'm going to have to go through day by day and print the report to a pdf file. I guess I will have to.
Resmed gives much better and more complete data than Respironics, it is a shame I had to get stuck with this machine.
The hardware and build quality of the Resmed is also superior. As an example, the power supply for the Respironics is much lower quality than the Resmed.

I do appreciate your help. You really gotta wonder where the head of the person who designed Encore was at. Clearly not for getting and reporting data easily.