Inexpensive hose drier

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by Conrad » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:07 pm

cosmo wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
I belong to a number of forums. By this site has the greatest percent of jerks by far. Most of the people are nice folks and the rest are jerks or whine-o's. Deprivation of oxygen is very apparent

Trolling people for following instructions as to clean their medical devices is pretty low.
I too belong to a number of other forums (cars, motorcycles..). Trolls last about three posts in my bike forums before they're removed. We don't tolerate that kind of BS there.
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by Conrad » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:08 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
That blower system you initially posted would apparently be injecting unfiltered room air into a hose that you presumably had just "cleaned". What's the advantage in that? This would be in contrast to the FILTERED air and DISTILLED water vapor going through the hose when attached to the XPAP machine.

According to this, pathogens CANNOT be carried out of a humidifier tank to the user. (take out the spaces)
(it's also been posted numerous times on this forum)

http : // www . talkaboutsleep . com/sleep-disorders/archives/Snoring_apnea_cpaphumid9 . htm


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This is the same air that you breathe every day while not hooked up to your machine right?
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:18 pm

cosmo wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
I belong to a number of forums. By this site has the greatest percent of jerks by far. Most of the people are nice folks and the rest are jerks or whine-o's. Deprivation of oxygen is very apparent

Trolling people for following instructions as to clean their medical devices is pretty low.

Let me guess ... you hang with the whine-o's.

Hey! ... I bet with help from some of the "great" members around here (not the jerks of course, the nice ones, meh), you can modify your drying contraption to add some O2 into your circuit.

Look ... the only "trolling" in this thread was to let people know that they don't have to let the clean freaks scare them into buying all kinds of additional equipment to get safe efficacy from their CPAP therapy. Don't get me wrong, I love building contraptions and have actually built some to improve my own CPAP experience.

The real issues with CPAP therapy are finding the right mask that provides both comfort and an adequate seal, after that the little stuff like monitoring your data and tweaking your pressure(s). The fun stuff should be, well, fun. If you can't laugh over the fun stuff why bother building contraptions to dry your hose.
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:20 pm

Conrad wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
That blower system you initially posted would apparently be injecting unfiltered room air into a hose that you presumably had just "cleaned". What's the advantage in that? This would be in contrast to the FILTERED air and DISTILLED water vapor going through the hose when attached to the XPAP machine.

According to this, pathogens CANNOT be carried out of a humidifier tank to the user. (take out the spaces)
(it's also been posted numerous times on this forum)

http : // www . talkaboutsleep . com/sleep-disorders/archives/Snoring_apnea_cpaphumid9 . htm


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This is the same air that you breathe every day while not hooked up to your machine right?
That's exactly the point. People are going way overboard with their germophobia and forgetting that they are only wearing their "clean" CPAP equipment for about 8 hours a day. Why are they not freaking out over the other 16 hours?
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by cosmo » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:34 pm

The 3 ply toilet paper I just wiped my rear with is more useful than any advice you've dispensed.

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:36 pm

cosmo wrote:The 3 ply toilet paper I just wiped my rear with is more useful than any advice you've dispensed.

3-ply ... that's impressive.
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by Pachyderm's Nose » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:44 pm

DreamStalker wrote:
cosmo wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
I belong to a number of forums. By this site has the greatest percent of jerks by far. Most of the people are nice folks and the rest are jerks or whine-o's. Deprivation of oxygen is very apparent

Trolling people for following instructions as to clean their medical devices is pretty low.

Let me guess ... you hang with the whine-o's.

Hey! ... I bet with help from some of the "great" members around here (not the jerks of course, the nice ones, meh), you can modify your drying contraption to add some O2 into your circuit.

Look ... the only "trolling" in this thread was to let people know that they don't have to let the clean freaks scare them into buying all kinds of additional equipment to get safe efficacy from their CPAP therapy. Don't get me wrong, I love building contraptions and have actually built some to improve my own CPAP experience.

The real issues with CPAP therapy are finding the right mask that provides both comfort and an adequate seal, after that the little stuff like monitoring your data and tweaking your pressure(s). The fun stuff should be, well, fun. If you can't laugh over the fun stuff why bother building contraptions to dry your hose.
EXACTLY! It's not trolling to state clearly and concisely that much of this equipment, expensive or not, dryers, sanitizing machines, et cetera, are unlikely to keep you safer, or make you more healthy, if you choose to use them fine but there is a valid counter argument. So if you have an unlimited budget and no where else to spend your money enjoy! I see them all as unnecessary at best and like Dreamstalker I don't want to see one person fall into the trap of thinking these things are necessary for their xPAP treatment. Do we really need a new "how do you dry your hose?" or "Sanitizer machine" topic every week? Good grief! Do a search on the site see what's already been said.

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:48 pm

That and the "alternative devices" that have little or no therapeutic value!
Only a select few have room for a didgeridoo where one really belongs!

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:50 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:That and the "alternative devices" that have little or no therapeutic value!
Only a select few have room for a didgeridoo where one really belongs!
Now there's a fun project ... cleaning all that spit out of a didgeridoo
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:57 pm

cosmo wrote: Toilet paper wins every time.
Yep. For sure. That's what I use to wipe my ass too.
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by Pachyderm's Nose » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:58 pm

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Toilet paper wins every time.
I see nothing that says " Attach hose dryer" or "Place mask, hose, et cetera in sanitizing machine" so what have you proven? You have shown that the equipment manufacturer has provided a recommended cleaning routine and schedule.

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:00 pm

Pachyderm's Nose wrote:
cosmo wrote: Toilet paper wins every time.
I see nothing that says " Attach hose dryer" or "Place mask, hose, et cetera in sanitizing machine" so what have you proven? You have shown that the equipment manufacturer has provided a recommended cleaning routine and schedule.
But that's not the only reason for those recommendations ... they have to wipe, I mean cover, their ass too.
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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by cosmo » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:02 pm

Do a search on the site see what's already been said.

Maybe take a little of your own advice? Its been well documented that a hose will still not dry on its own after week.

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Re: Inexpensive hose drier

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:03 pm

Conrad wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
Conrad wrote:I started this thread to offer folks who DO wash their hoses a cheap way to dry them off on the inside. I see no reason why the non hose washing/drying peanut gallery felt the need to comment in my thread. Oh wait, I guess there is a reason, right trolls?
That blower system you initially posted would apparently be injecting unfiltered room air into a hose that you presumably had just "cleaned". What's the advantage in that? This would be in contrast to the FILTERED air and DISTILLED water vapor going through the hose when attached to the XPAP machine.

According to this, pathogens CANNOT be carried out of a humidifier tank to the user. (take out the spaces)
(it's also been posted numerous times on this forum)

http : // www . talkaboutsleep . com/sleep-disorders/archives/Snoring_apnea_cpaphumid9 . htm


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This is the same air that you breathe every day while not hooked up to your machine right?
DreamStalker beat me to it.......and in almost the same wording I would have used.

How often do people boil their noses? You never know......there could be some germs in there......just waiting to reinfect you. Even if you sneeze in your mask, the chances of any of that air getting anywhere into your hose is almost nonexistent against the incoming airflow.
I still want to know how a person can infect themselves with something they already have and are building up an immunity to by having it. Nobody has ever been able to answer that question to my satisfaction.

It's also interesting that people who only have been on the forum for a couple of months or less than a year try to discount the advice that is shared from people who have many years of experience........and throw the term "troll" around freely.
People usually come to forums to find out what advice the long-time users have to share........or to contribute and help new users with advice from their own experiences. Who's the REAL troll?

In the end, we just try to throw out some of our experiences and try to get the idea across to the (new) users to do what you feel comfortable with. It's YOUR therapy. But, don't complain or argue if what we offer as advice is different from what you've been told/instructed to do. Those people who told you to do it a certain way may also be the people who are selling you the equipment to maximize their profits. They may also be the same ones who say.......that the machines don't provide data, you're too dumb to understand it (if it exists), users can't get the software to monitor their own therapy, you can't get an APAP machine with a CPAP insurance prescription code (E0601), it's illegal to change your own settings, you have to get new supplies every month or so ("your insurance will pay for it"), etc., etc., etc.


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