Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

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Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by 1041 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:32 am

One MMA undergoer said they woke up from surgery with an
extremely sore butt. Questioning the doctor he found that the
brain experiences pain while one is anesthetized. So his butt
muscles were clenching up for hours and that's why they're so
sore. I'm reminded of a story called The Jaunt where in the
future humans have discovered teleportation by putting people
through a special machine. The trick is that people who go
through it must be unconscious while they do so or they come
out and then die.

For those three hours where one is being cut into, and all the
muscles are registering severe pain, I wonder if one doesn't
really live through the ordeal second by second, but since the
memory banks are not active one is unable to remember this
experience.

Trauma causes lasting effects as we know from the health
ramifications of being abused as children. I wonder if MMA
patients will, twenty years from now, develop problems.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by insylem » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:36 pm

The whole but flexing thing sounds like a lie or excuse they made up.

If you go under for surgery they numb you and stuff. Think about when they just do a local?

Even if they didnt numb you and you were unconcious, they still prety much paraplise you
so you woudlnt be able to squeeze your butt.

As far as I can tell though. An anastesaliogist would be able to tell better.

Ive had many surgeris from having a Cleff Lip/Palet when I was born. Never really had an after problem and I'm 34 now.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:49 pm

The drug given people during a colonoscopy renders the patient relaxed and able to cooperate;
while unable to remember the procedure afterward. --Except for a very few people who do remember.
Different people react to different drugs in unpredictable ways. This may be an instance of that.
It may be an unusual phenomenon, but the explanation sounds plausible.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by SleepingUgly » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:33 pm

Maybe the guy had a sigmoidoscopy during his MMA, trying to kill two birds with one stone?

P.S. Call me a skeptic, but if I woke up from anesthesia with a sore bottom, I would be very suspicious of the surgeon's standards of practice...
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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:02 pm

I was trying not to think of that!

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by Elle » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:40 am

You're also usually given something that renders you unable to move so you don't mess up the cutting. You could not clench muscles.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by kteague » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:38 am

Could you be more specific about that sore butt? As in the buttocks muscles I hope, and not a more specific area. I would be interested in hearing someone who works in the field weighing in on this.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by lostsheep » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:35 am

Is it possible you got an injection in the rear end? I had demoral that way before surgery back in the 70's. I can't remember if it made my butt sore; but it did make me high as a kite. I don't know if that is standard practice anymore, but it was nice at the time.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by cosmo » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:37 am

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by 1041 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:23 am

It wasn't me, but the blogger did say their butt muscles.

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by NotAThermometer » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:41 am

Was the Anesthesiologist Dr. George Doodnaught?

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Re: Delayed effects of the trauma of surgery?

Post by Julie » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:01 am

Hi - I've transcribed thousands of OR reports for MD's at work, plus sat in and took notes at many, many others for certain neuro. surgeries and I've never heard of anything like you describe. The only surgery I know of for which no anesthesia is used would be when they work on the actual internal brain, following entry for which they did use local anesthetic and locals of various kinds are used for loads of things, most done in Day Surgery. On occasion a short acting local (or sedating) dose may not be quite enough but the doctors or anesthesiologist is usually aware of it, and so give you another little dose at the time.

There is one phenomenon (pretty rare!) where a 'general' anesthetic given is not enough to knock out a patient entirely - e.g. they're physically immobile, but not mentally, and are aware of pain, but instances of that are very, very unusual...