When a full face mask is welcome
When a full face mask is welcome
My husband has a sinus infection and was coughing his brains out last night. I was actually glad to have a full face mask to protect my airway from my husband's germs.
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Kenneth P.
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
This go around with mask replacement's.I did get a full face mask for stand by when I'm sick&stopped up..Alway's best to think ahead.
Roxy wrote:My husband has a sinus infection and was coughing his brains out last night. I was actually glad to have a full face mask to protect my airway from my husband's germs.
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In my case, I tried more than 20 FF masks and none of them was leak free. If I would be coughing I would skip the mask and try to use a chinstrap only. I do it when I take naps. The strap holds the tongue via the mandible and prevents the tongue from falling back into the throat and causing an obstructive apnea.
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hyperlexis
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
CPAP manufacturers really need to consider adding true hepa type filters to these machines. It would be a boon for allergic patients and would likewise cut down on inhaled bacteria, dust mite allergens, or viruses, etc. A miniature hepa room air filter system, basically. If other manufacturers can add a small hepa filter to the outlet of a vacuum cleaner, they should be able to do something similar for a CPAP machine. My PR60 does have an added, extra fine filter behind the main dust filter, but so far I have seen no specs on what it actually can filter out, and the thing is absolutely miniscule. About the size of two postage stamps. I can't fathom such a small filter could be effective for more than a day even. Goodness I really wonder who builds these machines, sometimes. For so much money, and after so many decades of CPAP development, certain items and features on the machines seem like complete afterthoughts.
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I can't tolerate most chin straps when I am well. Suffice it to say I have a full face for when I'm sick.
Oddly, many times when I thought I'd need it, the rush of warm humid air opened up my congested nose right away.
I know that luck like that may be uncommon, but it tends to work when I'm stuffy without the mucus.
Oddly, many times when I thought I'd need it, the rush of warm humid air opened up my congested nose right away.
I know that luck like that may be uncommon, but it tends to work when I'm stuffy without the mucus.
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I got a FF mask for just this reason, but as yet, even with the scuba glue/stuff, I've not had a full nite with this mask (Quattro FX). The leaks are so loud I try only on weekends when hubby doesn't have to go to work next am. Then, I get so tired I reach for either my Piliaro or Swift FX (which I am becoming fond of), because I need rest. I think when using aromatherapy,with nasal congestion, I do better with a nasal, or nasal pillows than with that possessed FF mask. I think my face is just not made for FF mask.chunkyfrog wrote:I can't tolerate most chin straps when I am well. Suffice it to say I have a full face for when I'm sick.
Oddly, many times when I thought I'd need it, the rush of warm humid air opened up my congested nose right away.
I know that luck like that may be uncommon, but it tends to work when I'm stuffy without the mucus.
I do plan to try the Innomed Hybrid, it looks to be simple in the photo, moreso than the Liberty (unless I make a trade for the Liberty). I have hever had a nite yet I could not get to sleep with my older IQ, so I'm trying to keep one IQ with the old headgear in good shape, since they no longer make the 3point headgear & the new headgear does not fit my face at all. SleepNet's headgear (3point anyway) wears out faster than their cushions (about 3 headgears to 1 cushion), so I am stockpiling & not using unless other masks just won't do for a few nites.
Anyway, I digress, sorry about the long post my hubby started with FF & loves it - the Amara - so at least one of us is happy with FF.
Jen
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
What do you do when you don't have your mask on. The air you are breathing is completely unfiltered. Do you wear a hepa mask? At least when you have the CPAP going, you are filtering the air you normally breathe.hyperlexis wrote:CPAP manufacturers really need to consider adding true hepa type filters to these machines. It would be a boon for allergic patients and would likewise cut down on inhaled bacteria, dust mite allergens, or viruses, etc. A miniature hepa room air filter system, basically. If other manufacturers can add a small hepa filter to the outlet of a vacuum cleaner, they should be able to do something similar for a CPAP machine. My PR60 does have an added, extra fine filter behind the main dust filter, but so far I have seen no specs on what it actually can filter out, and the thing is absolutely miniscule. About the size of two postage stamps. I can't fathom such a small filter could be effective for more than a day even. Goodness I really wonder who builds these machines, sometimes. For so much money, and after so many decades of CPAP development, certain items and features on the machines seem like complete afterthoughts.
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
I suspect that the place we are in may influence allergen exposure.
At night, I am in a bedroom--the most textile-filled room in the house.
Maybe bedding captures and riles the dust about more than other things.
We don't normally shake blankets about in other rooms.
At night, I am in a bedroom--the most textile-filled room in the house.
Maybe bedding captures and riles the dust about more than other things.
We don't normally shake blankets about in other rooms.
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hyperlexis
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Well that's my point! "Filtering" it with what? A piece of cheap foam the size of a postage stamp?LSAT wrote:What do you do when you don't have your mask on. The air you are breathing is completely unfiltered. Do you wear a hepa mask? At least when you have the CPAP going, you are filtering the air you normally breathe.hyperlexis wrote:CPAP manufacturers really need to consider adding true hepa type filters to these machines. It would be a boon for allergic patients and would likewise cut down on inhaled bacteria, dust mite allergens, or viruses, etc. A miniature hepa room air filter system, basically. If other manufacturers can add a small hepa filter to the outlet of a vacuum cleaner, they should be able to do something similar for a CPAP machine. My PR60 does have an added, extra fine filter behind the main dust filter, but so far I have seen no specs on what it actually can filter out, and the thing is absolutely miniscule. About the size of two postage stamps. I can't fathom such a small filter could be effective for more than a day even. Goodness I really wonder who builds these machines, sometimes. For so much money, and after so many decades of CPAP development, certain items and features on the machines seem like complete afterthoughts.
If you're sleeping for 6-8 hours in a room, on a mattress and pillows and blankets loaded with dust mites and their allergenic poop (yeah, that's pretty much every bedroom in America), then a HEPA filter option for the actual CPAP blowing air up your face would be a good option to have. The alternative, in addition to obviously cleaning, etc. of linens and carpets and drapes, etc., is to use a HEPA room air filter or electronic air cleaner in the bedroom to reduce allergies. Such machines, however, are large, noisy, and expensive. At least the effective ones are. And believe me I have done it so I know.
So it would be helpful if the CPAP machines had better filtration options, is all I was suggesting. I think the S9 has a larger filter media -- the PR's, however, its virtually laughable what they use. It doesn't even have a frame to secure it.
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
I am new to all of this - been testing a machine for about 1 week. I assume that a full face mask is preferred when cold and flu hits. I am using a new Wisp - just coming to realize I lucked out is selecting it - but any suggestions for a full face mask as a standby?
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Drawing straws on who gets the sofa would be a better idea. I'm a germaphobRoxy wrote:My husband has a sinus infection and was coughing his brains out last night. I was actually glad to have a full face mask to protect my airway from my husband's germs.

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FYI
I didn't wait until Resmed or Respironics made a real good filter. I made my filters from N95 surgical masks since years now.
When I get my S9 I forgot I had a N95 in the System One. I started using the S9 with the Resmed small particles filter. Odd as it could sound, I started having a very sore throat each morning for days until after maybe 2 weeks I realized I haven't make N95 filter for my new S9.
I made it and changed the small particles filter I was using for the home made filter. No more sore throat.
I have allergies to pollen, exhaust fumes, cigarette, mites, dust, etc. I don't know what was the cause of my throat problem, what I can say is I have no more problems since I changed the filter. No, it won't damage the machine I verified the pressure restriction from that material.
I didn't wait until Resmed or Respironics made a real good filter. I made my filters from N95 surgical masks since years now.
When I get my S9 I forgot I had a N95 in the System One. I started using the S9 with the Resmed small particles filter. Odd as it could sound, I started having a very sore throat each morning for days until after maybe 2 weeks I realized I haven't make N95 filter for my new S9.
I made it and changed the small particles filter I was using for the home made filter. No more sore throat.
I have allergies to pollen, exhaust fumes, cigarette, mites, dust, etc. I don't know what was the cause of my throat problem, what I can say is I have no more problems since I changed the filter. No, it won't damage the machine I verified the pressure restriction from that material.
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Re: When a full face mask is welcome
A full mask mask is good. If they start you on a nasal mask, you may mouth breath, and think you are getting good treatment when you are not. Sure you have leak issues, but you've them with almost masks, you must learn to deal with it.
By tossing you to the wolves with a Brick Pap, and a Nasal Mask, you are set up for failure from the start. It costs the DME Provider less, but he makes more profit, and if you want good treatment you get to buy a full face mask, even more profit for him. The sad part is the people that fail because of it and give up treatment. With any mask keeping the leaks under control means better treatment results. Jim
By tossing you to the wolves with a Brick Pap, and a Nasal Mask, you are set up for failure from the start. It costs the DME Provider less, but he makes more profit, and if you want good treatment you get to buy a full face mask, even more profit for him. The sad part is the people that fail because of it and give up treatment. With any mask keeping the leaks under control means better treatment results. Jim
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But the unused bricks go on the black market; meaning much higher likelihood
that there is at least one new customer they will never see; not including the "quitter", who will never return.
Doesn't seem to make sense unless the DME owns stock in a funeral home.
that there is at least one new customer they will never see; not including the "quitter", who will never return.
Doesn't seem to make sense unless the DME owns stock in a funeral home.
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Nowhere did I ever say DME'S were Smart, but you may have something about stock in a funeral home. I won't go into what I think about the rip off of funerals, playing off the grief of the greaving. Jimchunkyfrog wrote:But the unused bricks go on the black market; meaning much higher likelihood
that there is at least one new customer they will never see; not including the "quitter", who will never return.
Doesn't seem to make sense unless the DME owns stock in a funeral home.
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