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Re: Questions on Data

Post by Sleepless_in_LM » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:59 pm

Todzo wrote:Hi again Sleepless_in_LM!

Your situation kind of reminds me of the time after I was robbed, beaten and stabbed five times. After a day or so in the ICU and acute care, after I walked and did not leak, and finding that I had a daughter to tend the wounds they sent me home.

So I lay awake one night, wondering why I cannot sleep. Then the thought occurred to me, "well, does anything hurt?". As I let myself take inventory - well - everything hurt - actually - quite a bit. I broke down and took one of the 30 oxycontin pills the doctors provided and slept like a baby. I think those 30 pills lasted me about 45 days and I needed no refill. They were nice when I needed them but I have no idea why people do crime to get them. Not even a buzz for me - just sleep.

In your case I kind of wonder if relaxing also brings some pain into the picture. That would ratchet up the central nervous system perhaps pushing breathing to be hypocapnic bringing on inflammation, apneas, and unstable breathing (the events!).

It is probably a time to look at your bed critically. If it is old and has developed a bit of a “U” shape when you sleep in it – well – I used to add a plywood support between mattress and box spring to keep things flat which was much more comfortable for me.

A bed that forms to your shape well may be worth the investment.

Perhaps some form of physical therapy may help.

Perhaps even (this is last resort) a pain medication for a time.

My thoughts for now.

Todzo
Thanks Todzo!

Hadn't thought about the pain being a direct cause. The bed is an air bed and not that old, so I hope that isn't it. Got a good supply of vicatin, but avoid them whenever possible. In the past, I would notice increases in AHI when I took narcotics, but maybe it is worth a try. Good food for thought!

Have a great weekend!

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Re: Questions on Data

Post by Todzo » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:27 pm

Sleepless_in_LM wrote:Thanks Todzo!

Hadn't thought about the pain being a direct cause. The bed is an air bed and not that old, so I hope that isn't it. Got a good supply of vicatin, but avoid them whenever possible. In the past, I would notice increases in AHI when I took narcotics, but maybe it is worth a try. Good food for thought!

Have a great weekend!
Hi again Sleepless_in_LM!

To me drugs are a last resort for pain. In general, we need pain. Lest we do our body even more damage.

Vicodin, considering your history with it, the fact that the Hydrocodone part tends to cause hyperventilation and you already show unstable breathing, the fact that the Paracetamol portion tends to blunt heart response which tends to be bad with unstable breathing - well - I do not believe it is a good choice for you espically while using PAP!! If you feel you need a pain medication ask the doc for one which goes well with PAP.

And yes, I hope we both have a lot of fun this weekend!!

Todzo
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