Vaseline & Nasal Pillows: not a good idea

[StillAnotherGuest]

The reason intranasal vaseline is dangerous is because it can result in "lipoid pneumonia":

Intranasal Vaseline and Lipoid Pneumonia

Make sure you read the end of the article where it says treatment is supportive. That means once you get it, you're stuck with it.
SAG

[StillAnotherGuest]

Oops! This should help:

Intranasal Vaseline and Lipoid Pneumonia

SAG

[Guest]

michelle rae-

my hat is off to you if you have tolerated ayr gel for a whole week. i get "ayr burn" after about three days, so i need to use both--ayr to clean me out and petroleum jelly to moisturize.

caroline

[Amigo]

Oops! This should help:

Intranasal Vaseline and Lipoid Pneumonia

SAG

courtesy of Snoozin' Bluezzz

How about, when we recognize he, or she, for what they are post a big red:

TROLL!!!!!

IGNORE THE NONSENSE!!!!!

as a final remark. Just like we do with spam. It may take a little while to realize we are being goaded but to feed this jerk's ego makes no sense.

SB

[StillAnotherGuest]

Course, you could use one of the accepted alternatives, like Rhinaris:

Rhinaris

Where they also point out

Why can’t I use Vaseline instead of Rhinaris to soothe my dry nose?
Vaseline should not be used to treat nasal dryness. It may immobilize the cilia; small hairs that help the nose get rid of foreign material and clean the incoming air, thereby impeding the function of the nose. As well, if small particles of Vaseline are inhaled from the nose, they may deposit in the lungs and lead to a condition called lipid pneumonia. Rhinaris should be used instead since it is a water-based product and so does not pose the risk of lipid pneumonia and will not immobilize the cilia.

SAG

[StillAnotherGuest]

Then we could always refer to the Mayo Clinic:

Mayo Clinic and Lipid Pneumonia

Hey, do what you want. But you got two things working against you, daily usage and a driving pressure source that makes deposition of petrolatum even more likely.

Make sure you guess right, cause fibrotic lung changes are irreversible.

SAG

[StillAnotherGuest]

Oh, and BTW

Strange, when I was a kid and hospitalized they needed to stick a tube in my nose and down to my stomach. And what did they use to lube the tube before putting it in my nose? You guessed it, petroleum jelly.

NOBODY passing an NG tube uses vaseline, go ahead and Google NG tube and lubricant, and every one will come up with "water-soluble lubricant."

Like this one for instance:

Procedure for NG Tube Insertion

And note the line

Aspiration pneumonia. Not likely with a water based lubricant. If an oil based lube is used and the person breathes some into their lungs, that person will develop a pneumonia and it will be very difficult to treat.

At least, I sincerely hope he wasn't.
SAG

[ThStoddart]

Oops! This should help:

Intranasal Vaseline and Lipoid Pneumonia

SAG

courtesy of Snoozin' Bluezzz

How about, when we recognize he, or she, for what they are post a big red:

TROLL!!!!!

IGNORE THE NONSENSE!!!!!

as a final remark. Just like we do with spam. It may take a little while to realize we are being goaded but to feed this jerk's ego makes no sense.

SB

Actually, did you read the articles this guy posted?

I personally prefer the saline gels (for reasons I've posted elsewhere) but didn't personally think there was anything wrong with vaseline in the nose or for use with nasal pillows.

But the articles were pretty compelling and from multiple, reputable sources. I think the main concern I drew from the articles as it relates to vaseline with CPAP is the potential for problems with long-term use.

So I think this character was just posting a different point of view and was providing sources so we could make up our own minds. No need to dismiss it out of hand.

[Darth Vader Look]

That was a very good, informative post Still Another Guest. I read the linked articles and agree that the vaseline could cause problems. The water based stuff would be better to go with. Even the ingestion of mineral oil was mentioned in regards to this. Thanks.

[Guest]

Is baby oil a viable alternative for lubricating nasal pillows? Or does it have the same inherent dangers as vaseline? I'm not sure about the chemical composition of baby oil, so maybe the experts on this board can chime in.

Thanks!

`SleepPapster

[guest two]

Has this forum become more mean-spirited and petty than it was even 3 months ago? What a bunch of bitter angry old coots and cootettes. Thank God there at least a few who seem more interested in solving problems, gaining solutions and supporting others than the load of shit slinging, disparaging county club members who resent anyone new and who has not been granted the CPAPTALK seal of approval by some cranky old goat.

How about 11 years ago?

How about, when we recognize he, or she, for what they are post a big red:

TROLL!!!!!

IGNORE THE NONSENSE!!!!!

as a final remark. Just like we do with spam. It may take a little while to realize we are being goaded but to feed this jerk's ego makes no sense.

SB