Correct type machine?

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:34 am

The M Series has no way to let you know if it is working just fine or not. That is the part that bothers me.

Keep an eye out for either a PR System One Pro or APAP (they collect the data that will flag centrals) or the ResMed S9 ELite or Autoset (those models also will collect central data) and software for either brand is easily obtained.
Respronics PR S1 models that collect data...450 and above. Just like with the M Series..even a 250 model doesn't offer data.
M series machine that do offer data don't flag centrals and that I why I don't recommend them for people who have a history of centrals that they might want to monitor.

Have confirmation in your hand that those centrals are no longer an issue then you can put the ASV on the back burner.

Since you feel better...I suppose there doesn't appear to be any urgent need and it is entirely up to you how you want to take care of yourself but if it was me...I would at least want a machine that offered central event flagging just so I would know for sure. Full data machines are available on craigslist. Just have to know your models and be patient.
I found one the other day for less than $200 with zero hours on it...a brand new PR S1 full data machine.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by jtmarten » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:09 am

Pugsy wrote:The M Series has no way to let you know if it is working just fine or not. That is the part that bothers me.

Keep an eye out for either a PR System One Pro or APAP (they collect the data that will flag centrals) or the ResMed S9 ELite or Autoset (those models also will collect central data) and software for either brand is easily obtained.
Respronics PR S1 models that collect data...450 and above. Just like with the M Series..even a 250 model doesn't offer data.
M series machine that do offer data don't flag centrals and that I why I don't recommend them for people who have a history of centrals that they might want to monitor.

Have confirmation in your hand that those centrals are no longer an issue then you can put the ASV on the back burner.

Since you feel better...I suppose there doesn't appear to be any urgent need and it is entirely up to you how you want to take care of yourself but if it was me...I would at least want a machine that offered central event flagging just so I would know for sure. Full data machines are available on craigslist. Just have to know your models and be patient.
I found one the other day for less than $200 with zero hours on it...a brand new PR S1 full data machine.
I think that's my plan now. I'll keep looking for a machine that logs CSA data and keep the M-Series as a backup. If the data over time shows ineffective treatment of the CSA's, I'll look into an ASV unit at that time.


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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:21 am

jtmarten wrote:I think that's my plan now. I'll keep looking for a machine that logs CSA data and keep the M-Series as a backup. If the data over time shows ineffective treatment of the CSA's, I'll look into an ASV unit at that time.

I think that is an acceptable plan.

Now IF, big if here, if you starting feeling horrible...try really hard to find that full data machine. They are out there and you can even buy new online with your doctors RX.
Stay with the S9 or PR System One machines that offer the data though. Other brands don't always flag the centrals as well and software is not always so easy to find.
So know your models that offer the data you need. Craigslist sellers don't always know what they have or don't state it.
The machine I found last week...ad said "new Respironics cpap machine that uses SD card and humidifier "...that is all it said. I thought for sure with the price quoted that the machine was a less than full data machine but it wasn't.
Sometimes we get lucky and this time we did. I knew that if it used a SD card that it was at least a PR S1 machine and not one of the older models it wasn't till I saw pictures of the machine and the model number that I knew we had a keeper.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by archangle » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:03 pm

jtmarten wrote:Thanks for the info!
I talked to the ins co, they pay 80% as long as the script specifies an SV machine. I found used SV machines for $800-980, just waiting for the Dr's office to call back so I can have them modify the script.

But then .... I got a reply from the sleep technician. She only used basic 7cm CPAP for the results, so the M-Series I have will work just fine.

I don't know if its worth persuing an SV machine now on the chance a standard CPAP will not effectively treat the CSA's in the future.
Be very careful about buying a used machine on your own. Many insurance companies will not pay unless it's through a local DME with licensed medical professionals on staff. A Craigslist buy may not get paid.

Many older machines may not collect the data you need to monitor your therapy, or you may not be able to get the hardware and software to monitor them.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by jtmarten » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:11 pm

archangle wrote:
jtmarten wrote:Thanks for the info!
I talked to the ins co, they pay 80% as long as the script specifies an SV machine. I found used SV machines for $800-980, just waiting for the Dr's office to call back so I can have them modify the script.

But then .... I got a reply from the sleep technician. She only used basic 7cm CPAP for the results, so the M-Series I have will work just fine.

I don't know if its worth persuing an SV machine now on the chance a standard CPAP will not effectively treat the CSA's in the future.
Be very careful about buying a used machine on your own. Many insurance companies will not pay unless it's through a local DME with licensed medical professionals on staff. A Craigslist buy may not get paid.

Many older machines may not collect the data you need to monitor your therapy, or you may not be able to get the hardware and software to monitor them.
My ins co will reimburse 80%, but I'll have to purchase through a dealer so I can forward an invoice. It'll probably be cheaper too since I'll only have to cover 20% of the cost.
Def only looking at machines that will log CSA data.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by jtmarten » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:27 pm

Just ordered a new Resmed S9 AutoSet w/humidifier. I think it was a great deal @ $799, ins will reimburse 80% . From what I've read here the SleepyHead software should work well with it. Sounds like ResMed is anti-home user when it comes to their software.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:44 pm

Check your private message box.
ResMed may not want to help the end users much but we don't care. We have our ways.
I sent you some information about the latest version of ResScan 4.1 which seems to be a little faster than the other versions...though it still is much slower than SleepyHead which will also work with the S9 Autoset and I have links for all its stuff in my signature line below.

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Re: Correct type machine?

Post by mtn aire » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:09 pm

ref- central apneas- i have read and been told that C-Pap can actually make central apnea worse... i went thru sleep eval this spring. had to go on c-pap first during titration- had to prove* to medicaid that c-pap was not effective or made my breathing worse.. crazy huh? you have to be made to feel worse before you can be allowed to feel better...

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