Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
- Chuck Connors
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Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
My Clear Airways in the past couple of months have been giving me readings ranging from 8 to 15 every night and even a 27 and 32 during a couple of nights. The corresponding events for those Clear Airways have many times numbered over 100, and even hit 397 events when I had the reading of 27. My EPR had been set at 3 during all of those higher readings. After reading all of the good information on this site, I decided to drop my EPR from 3 down to completely off. Since I turned the EPR off a few nights ago, my Clear Airways have dropped dramatically. During the past 3 nights, I have had Clear Airway readings of 2.87 (23 events); 2.01 (12 events); 1.83 (15 events). Needless to say, I'm pleased to see that particular number going in the right direction! -Chuck-
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Re: Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
I think for some of us the comfort features disrupt our breathing more than they help.
Last year during a storm,I walked outside into a very strong wind. A take your breath away wind. I realized that I alternated between closing my airway, and just not breathing, without thinking about it. My brain did that, and I have no doubt that it does it in response to xpap pressure when I am in some stage of sleep.
I had a lot of spontaneous arousals during my sleep study, and it makes sense to me that I would respond the same way to air blowing in my airway during an arousal as I do when I am standing outside in the wind.
EPR makes me feel like I need to breathe when the machine tells me to.
I find it much more comfortable to breathe against a lower pressure, but it took me awhile to figure that out.
I try to keep my pressure as low as possible. When I have used auto, the machine always wants to go to the top of the range. I think my responses are just driving it higher.
But that's just me, ymmv
Last year during a storm,I walked outside into a very strong wind. A take your breath away wind. I realized that I alternated between closing my airway, and just not breathing, without thinking about it. My brain did that, and I have no doubt that it does it in response to xpap pressure when I am in some stage of sleep.
I had a lot of spontaneous arousals during my sleep study, and it makes sense to me that I would respond the same way to air blowing in my airway during an arousal as I do when I am standing outside in the wind.
EPR makes me feel like I need to breathe when the machine tells me to.
I find it much more comfortable to breathe against a lower pressure, but it took me awhile to figure that out.
I try to keep my pressure as low as possible. When I have used auto, the machine always wants to go to the top of the range. I think my responses are just driving it higher.
But that's just me, ymmv
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Re: Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
I find an EPR of 3 is strictly a comfort thing to help you get used to the mask (though setting EPR inhale to fast helps at the expense of comfort -- it feels like someone is jamming something up my nose). A setting of 2 works fairly well and a setting of 1 works very well (at least for me).
Re: Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
Chuck Connors wrote:My Clear Airways in the past couple of months have been giving me readings ranging from 8 to 15 every night and even a 27 and 32 during a couple of nights. The corresponding events for those Clear Airways have many times numbered over 100, and even hit 397 events when I had the reading of 27. My EPR had been set at 3 during all of those higher readings. After reading all of the good information on this site, I decided to drop my EPR from 3 down to completely off. Since I turned the EPR off a few nights ago, my Clear Airways have dropped dramatically. During the past 3 nights, I have had Clear Airway readings of 2.87 (23 events); 2.01 (12 events); 1.83 (15 events). Needless to say, I'm pleased to see that particular number going in the right direction! -Chuck-
EPR is essentially BiLevel, and when it comes to BiLevel:Lizistired wrote:I think for some of us the comfort features disrupt our breathing more than they help.
Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure Worsens Central Apneas During Sleep (in only some cases)
In other words, SOME users find CPAP to be less destabilizing to their central respiration than BiLevel.
- Chuck Connors
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Re: Decreased EPR = Decreased Clear Airways
Thank you for the responses and the link to additional information. -Chuck-