Orange Specks in H5i Tank?

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:01 am

GumbyCT wrote:People can't understand why things grow in their tank when they use distilled BUT rinse with tap water. Distilled should also be used for whatever cleaning process you finally decide on.

Wait there is one now...

archangle wrote:If your tap water is safe to drink, it's fine to clean the tank.

But then in his wiggly, wobbly, aa way he contradicts what he just said. Just what he is good at, contradicting his aa self.

archangle wrote:Distilled water mostly helps by not having any nutrients in the water for bugs to feed on. Of course, cleaning or rinsing with distilled water won't hurt.

IF Distilled water is bacteria free then there are two ways to get things to grow in the water chamber. Putting tap water inside (for any reason - even rinsing) OR leaving the chamber open, exposed to room air (to dry?). To dry - once completely dry will you then put water in it?

Like the air we breath the water we drink does contain bacteria that will grow IF allowed to enter a closed system like your Humidifier chamber. And that is fine as long as you don't intend to inhale that bacteria for a few hours each nite.

Caveat Emptor

archangle · Post by **archangle** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:26 am

Awww, he's still infatuated with me.

Bacteria can't multiply unless there are nutrients to feed on. Distilled water is very low in contaminants for bacteria to grow on. The chemicals bacteria need to make more bacteria simply aren't there. In particular, there is little or no usable nitrogen for the bacteria to make protein. There's also very little usable energy for them to live off of.

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:42 am

archangle wrote:Bacteria can't multiply unless there are nutrients to feed on. Distilled water is very low in contaminants for bacteria to grow on. The chemicals bacteria need to make more bacteria simply aren't there. In particular, there is little or no usable nitrogen for the bacteria to make protein. There's also very little usable energy for them to live off of.

Sounds like he wobbled off his high horse. So this makes "Distilled Water" a bad thing or a good thing to use?

SMenasco · Post by **SMenasco** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:00 am

I wash my tank with hot tap water and liquid Tide, once a month, and rinse with distilled water. I immediately fill it up and put it back in service. Since it has room air blowing over it, I don't see the need to air dry it. My house remains a constant year round 73 degrees and 45 percent RH. With the Climate Line set on 75, a tank will last two days with about 1/4" remaining, so I refill every other day. So far, no critters. Don't drink the water with orange globules in it, unless you're extremely thirsty.

archangle · Post by **archangle** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:39 am

GumbyCT wrote:
archangle wrote:Bacteria can't multiply unless there are nutrients to feed on. Distilled water is very low in contaminants for bacteria to grow on. The chemicals bacteria need to make more bacteria simply aren't there. In particular, there is little or no usable nitrogen for the bacteria to make protein. There's also very little usable energy for them to live off of.
Sounds like he wobbled off his high horse. So this makes "Distilled Water" a bad thing or a good thing to use?

I'll type slowly so maybe you'll understand.

Yes, distilled water is a good thing to use for filling the tank.

It won't make much difference for rinsing the tank out, as long as you dump out the rinse water and fill it with distilled water for actual use.

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:47 pm

YOU are wobbling again...

archangle wrote:I'll type slowly so maybe you'll understand.
archangle wrote:It won't make much difference for rinsing the tank out, as long as you dump out the rinse water and fill it with distilled water for actual use.

In fact it does esp. if the water you rinse with contains bacteria or other contaminants. Apparently your meds have run out again?

Remember this...

archangle wrote:Distilled water is very low in contaminants for bacteria to grow on.

archangle wrote:In particular, there is little or no usable nitrogen for the bacteria to make protein. There's also very little usable energy for them to live off of.

There is little to no point using Distilled Water IF you contaminate the tank BEFORE putting in Distilled Water. Esp. if/when you leave the tank out & open to absorb bacteria from the room air before adding Distilled Water.

BTW - leaving the chamber or hose to dry in the bathroom is prob THE Worse place to leave them to dry. Well that is unless aa says it is OK. Now go take your meds.

IF you are going to use Distilled Water Do NOT ever let tap water touch your water chamber. Gumby said it and meant it.

aa you are free to do whatever you want to yourself. I only ask that you stop giving BAD ADVICE. In fact, you should change from aa to BA.

DrDeke · Post by **DrDeke** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:51 pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa, settle down, Beavis[es]! I don't wanna get caught in the crossfire here...

Anyway, the vinegar solution didn't work, but the mild bleach solution did. Looks as clean as new. Guess I'll go grab some distilled water and see how that does going forward.

As for being a DJ... Well... Perhaps a very poor one =).

avi123 wrote:Could you remove the Dr from your screen name to avoid confusion?

No, I don't think I can. At least I didn't see an option to in the user preferences?

nanwilson · Post by **nanwilson** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:10 pm

avi123 wrote:Could you remove the Dr from your screen name to avoid confusion?

No, I don't think I can. At least I didn't see an option to in the user preferences?[/quote]

DrDeke .... ignore Avi, he kinda likes things done his way, this is not his forum, we are all just patients that use this forum and help each other out. Avi frequently tends to "hinder" rather than "help". And yes, he gets confused easily, there are several users that use some form or derivitive of doctor as their handle on the forum, theres even one that calls herself therapist..and she's not. I have a friend that is really Dr Zeke ...he was Zeke when we were kids and now he's Dr Zeke .

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:16 pm

avi123 wrote:Could you remove the Dr from your screen name to avoid confusion?

City water contain Coliform Bacteria, Fecal Coliform, E. Coli, Pesticide, Herbicides, Discharge from fertilizer and aluminum factories, etc. Do you want any of it in your lungs?

You're talking about Raleigh...right?

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:00 pm

DrDeke wrote:
avi123 wrote:Could you remove the Dr from your screen name to avoid confusion?
No, I don't think I can. At least I didn't see an option to in the user preferences?

DrDeke, now you can see why that lady from Canada is on my ignore list with other bully ladies. Nothing useful in their posts, just nit picking.

She probably looks like this:

DrDeke · Post by **DrDeke** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:10 pm

avi123 wrote:City water contain Coliform Bacteria, Fecal Coliform, E. Coli

It does? Shouldn't those be killed/destroyed by the water treatment process before entering the distribution system?

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:21 pm

DrDeke wrote:It does? Shouldn't those be killed/destroyed by the water treatment process before entering the distribution system?

I am not gonna say avi is right or wrong. I do know that not everything gets killed in water but is still drinkable.

Search this forum for "Pink Slime" to find the drinking water bacteria that causes this slime which can make people very, very ill.

You can find this "Pink Slime" in your bathroom or kitchen sink near the edges or near that overflow hole. Yet you drink the water and brush your teeth with it.

Here is a start use Advanced Search so you can drill down...
search.php?keywords=pink+slime&terms=al ... mit=Search

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:49 pm

DrDeke wrote:
avi123 wrote:City water contain Coliform Bacteria, Fecal Coliform, E. Coli
It does? Shouldn't those be killed/destroyed by the water treatment process before entering the distribution system?

No Dr Deke, because drinking water are treated to the Highest Level of Maximum Residual Disinfectant Level allowed in drinking water. But we are inhaling this water. There are contaminants that our gastrointestinal system can take but not our lungs.

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:13 pm

SMenasco wrote:I wash my tank with hot tap water and liquid Tide, once a month, and rinse with distilled water. I immediately fill it up and put it back in service. Since it has room air blowing over it, I don't see the need to air dry it. My house remains a constant year round 73 degrees and 45 percent RH. With the Climate Line set on 75, a tank will last two days with about 1/4" remaining, so I refill every other day. So far, no critters. Don't drink the water with orange globules in it, unless you're extremely thirsty.

By drying the tank for the day you will most likely kill all the bacteria in it. Ask Dr ArchAngel.

The same works for drying bread, fruit, etc., which could keep it consumable for decades.

Do the same with your cutting boards, dishes, tooth brushes, etc.

So the idea is to have two chambers, one of which to stay dry during the day.

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:21 pm

It is arch angle cuz not matter what is said he takes the other angle. Please fix you tpyo.

EDIT: Of course an arch angel would be what?

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