Too Tired for Life: Blah

Swordz · Post by **Swordz** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:14 pm

Life is really catching up w/ me lately. Full-time student with all night classes becuase I'm just too fatigued to make morning classes. Add to that too fatigued to work.

I just started recently dating again for the first time in a year. It is amazing how much more fatigued I am having to keep w/ the extra responcibilities. Fortunately I start APAP treatment again this wk, after I recieve my machine. Hopefully I can tolerate with the mods I'm making through different mask and also using meds to help sleep.

Being only 24, it seems so amazing how much more fatigue I am now versus 3-5 years ago. I could stay up until 4-6 and get up late and be talkative, energetic, and the life of the party. Now, I honestly feel like $#%$ all the time and I struggle to make conversation. It seems as my life has literally passed me by the last few years, as I've been too tired to be social and do the "normal" things.

Anyone got any related stories? Prob not, as this whole forum is old people...

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Doovid · Post by **Doovid** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:21 pm

If you're tired now, wait til you're 60!!!!! (LOL)

Snoozie · Post by **Snoozie** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:22 pm

Sorry to hear that you are so tired. I know that a heavy class schedule can fatigue anyone... Just a thought, are you going to a gym and doing some working out or exercise training? That can help boost metabolism tremendously! I know you may be too tired to consider, but it really does help. I drag myself in from work and instead of taking the much wanted nap, I drag myself into running on my treadmill or doing strength exercises. It revives me until time to go to bed.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:27 pm

At 16, I worked 107 hours in one week, the good old days, where were those child labor law then? Young folks have it so tough.

Swordz · Post by **Swordz** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:33 pm

Snoozie wrote: are you going to a gym and doing some working out or exercise training? That can help boost metabolism tremendously! I know you may be too tired to consider, but it really does help.

I usually work out 4-5/wk, but I get REALLY tired and light-headed near the end. I just don't think my body can take too many completely sleep-devoid days.

I really just need sleep, plainly put. But it's going to be extra tough trying CPAP again, as I sleep on my back to help alleviate my mild scoliosis. The supine position is the worst for apneas, but I can't sleep on my side often as my back hurts. I've never really been able to sleep on my stomach, and I'd think mask tolerance is worse with stomach sleepers.

Snoozie · Post by **Snoozie** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:48 pm

Smile Things have to get better! Good luck to you in finding a perfect solution.

NeurosurgeryNP · Post by **NeurosurgeryNP** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:52 pm

Sworz -

I am with you. I am 31 - diagnosed 1 year ago. But, I have suffered with symptoms undiagnosed for over 10 years - all through undergrad school, and most recently through grad school - 11 credits a semester while working 40+ hours a week, not to mention hundreds of hours of clinical hours I had to do. I have been 100% compliant, EVERY night - and this has given me my life back. Hang in there - it can get better. I have my life back thanks to cpap. I hope that it can make such a difference for you too!

sleepyred · Post by **sleepyred** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:07 pm

I'm 40 something and it has taken me almost 2 decades (wow, that sounds scary!) to have my sleep issues dx.

I've heard it all:
"You're in college, you are supposed to be tired."
"You are to skinny for sleep problems!"
"You just got married, you are supposed to be tired."
"You just had a baby, if your thyroid is okay then, you are supposed to be tired."
"you just had your 2nd baby, you are supposed to be tired."
"you are working full-time and taking care of your family, you are supposed to be tired."

They I went to a great family doc who said:

"Hey, you are NOT supposed to be tired." "Let's send you to a sleep doc, ASAP!" (She did check that good old, evidently perfect thyroid AGAIN!)

I have UARS, am in love with my cpap (so is my dear hubby of 19 years!) because we can both sleep now and I can say that I have not slept this well since I was a teen!

So coming from one of those "old people" , hang in there and we're with you!

I'm just so impressed that you are taking control and taking care of your sleep issues!

Swordz · Post by **Swordz** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:10 pm

I definitely don't take the "Victim" approach that alot of people do, as my OSA has made me much more appreciative of all things in life. Its always good to know you're not the only 1 dealing with certain things, and its even better to have a significant other to help deal too.

I've probably had OSA for 10 years, as I was a zombie in high school also. It seems I didn't realize how fatigued I was until I found out I had OSA in April last year. Hopefully APAP will give me the sleep and treatment I need/deserve.

inacpapfog · Post by **inacpapfog** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:15 pm

Swordz, funny thing you mentioned about events increasing when on you're on your back. I have found the complete opposite to be true for me! When I fall asleep on my back, I make sure that my is head positioned as described in a post by frequentseeker. My data reports the next morning look great! (And, yes, I feel great too!) I believe that because I am resting in a position that does not promote air from being divert into the mouth, my airway remains positively affected and my sleep is uninterrupted. Because I have always been a side/tummy sleeper, this new routine was an adjustment for me. But, since being on pap for the last year and a half,I have to admit.... I do sleep more soundly and with less events when I am on my back!

Ellen · Post by **Ellen** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:16 pm

Swordz - Can feel for you there buddy!! Maybe most of us are older on this forum, but that's because we never knew when we were your age why we were so tired.

I also am right with you on the back sleeping thing. I have a problem with broken verts (3) in lumbar spine and 2 in cervical and cannot sleep anyway for past 15 years other than on back. Everyone out there can tell us this is the worst position for OSA - like we don't already know that.

What they need to understand is that we are dealing with pain from our backs in addition to OSA - my OSA didn't start until I broke back and neck and had to sleep flat on back..................

I hope when you go back to CPAP you can get a machine like mine, as it has got to be so much easier to use than standard CPAP........

Best of luck to you - and I'm proud of you that you are at least still trying to work and go to school - I've felt like giving up more than once and I'm sure I'm not the only one out there.

On your side in Wyoming
Ellen

Ellen · Post by **Ellen** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:21 pm

Dear Inacpapfog - Please explain to me what this back sleeping is - must be with how you position your head/neck?? Seriously, would love for you to tell me so I can try it tonight, as I'm have a tough time right now.....

WANTING TO KNOW BETTER SLEEP POSITION IN WYOMING!!

Hope to hear back from you -

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:09 pm

You'll find the discussion on this thread, before and after the following posts,
http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/message-b ... 7701#87701

http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/message-b ... 7714#87714

frequenseeker wrote:Put a small pillow or folded towel under your upper back as well, Less Sleepy. Your big pillow probably elevated your head and your back together. I used to use two pillows to do this years ago before I ever heard of sleep apnea. The pillows overlapped each other, with the lower one extending further down my back than the upper one but the upper one was under my back as well as the neck.
A pillow just under the neck usually doesn't promote breathing for people with difficulties so I would bet you propped more than your head when you used the big pillow.
If you need to keep pressure off your shoulders, use something wider to support the between shoulder blade area and the shoulder blades - maybe a large size folded towel, or two.

O,

Ellen · Post by **Ellen** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:14 pm

Thanks O - I'll give it a whirl!!!!!!!!!!

ellen

patruckboss · Post by **patruckboss** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:52 pm

they say things will get better swordz, i'm still waiting. my story is is somewhat like yours only i'm out of school. i had a great job,making real good money. i traveled all over the U.S. operating cranes and heavy equipment. for the last 4 years i was home about 3 weeks out of a year for the holidays.i would work as many hours as i could because i loved what i was doing.when i got off work i went out and explored the town i was in that week and had a great time. i too was the life of the party, i've got friends all over the U.S. life was great, then i had an accident at home and broke my shoulder,3ribs and my collar bone in 2 places. everything healed but my collarbone is now in my throat and there's nothing they can do to fix it.doc's told me to live with it. well it aint working! thats when i got osa and its been pure hell ever since.talk about a party crasher,lol, i cant hold a job,i'm working out of my garage making very little money, i dont go out, i just stay at home and suffer. my buddies keep trying to call but i'm too tired to answer the phone. i'm behind on bills because i cant stay awake long enough to make them out, life sucks! i've been on cpap since 11/06/05 and i feel a little better but nothing like before. every time i think about how i was before and what i'm like now i just want to end it all, i cant take it.my buddies try to get me help but i dont have the energy to go. isnt life great. well i got to go, i keep hitting my head on the desk falling asleep,lol. i hope it gets better for you swordz once you get back on your treatment and the dating should give you some good exercise

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