Questions with using Resmed

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Questions with using Resmed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

I really like the data in Resmed, but I have a couple questions.

1) How do I print the summary page that shows the days side by side, by sleep hour, pressure, etc? I really like seeing this report, but I can't print it.

2) In the graph with the sleep times, what do the black bars mean? I see the open gaps for when I had the machine off. Sometimes there is a black line or a larger section that is black.

3) Until today, when I downloaded the data, it would show me up to the current day. Today, it is only showing me data through May 10th. It is missing the last 3 days. I have no idea why it won't download those days. The card has been in the machine every night. Granted, I did not actually go to bed on the 11th. But that shouldn't prevent it from adding data on the 12th. Any ideas?

I really wanted to look at the data for the 12th.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Tue May 15, 2012 5:55 am

Update. I checked the data files, and there are no new files since my last download. What would cause it not to record the data? This means it will report that I didn't use it for 3 days which is not true. I am now worried that it may not record tonight.

The only thing I can think of is that the card wasn't in quite all the way, but I didn't notice anything different when I pulled the card out this evening.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Ticman » Tue May 15, 2012 6:23 am

Make sure it's not locked. Although if you look at the screen it will tell you the SD card is locked when you plug it in. Also, you could try unpluging the power cord and rebooting your machine.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Tue May 15, 2012 6:28 am

I haven't seen anything that says locked or unlocked. When I put the card back in, it said reading card. I can't remember if I saw that last time. I know it usually says that, so I could have not put it in correctly the last time. I will make sure it says it every time. And I guess I better check it every single day. I am still in the compliance phase, so I really need my data to show up. Now it looks like I skipped 3 nights.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Pugsy » Tue May 15, 2012 7:02 am

Even when the SD card is left totally out of the machine for a few days the machine should still store the hours of use compliance data along with overall AHI. The hi def data needs to have the SD card in the machine but not basic compliance data. Try rebooting the machine (unplug from electric source for a minute or so and plug back in) and see if forcing the firmware to reboot clears out the cobwebs. May need to sleep a night after doing this because it may not retroactively fix the old problem but might take care of subsequent usage problem.
Even if SleepQuality accidentally got changed to usage and not patient it still should show hours of use on the machine and in the software reports.
If reboot doesn't get the machine to kick in and your usage data is still absent you probably need to have a chat with your DME.

I take it you are using ResScan software for your other 2 questions. I don't have a printer so I can't duplicate what you are wanting to do but if there is no option to print the screen where you are viewing something you can always take a screen shot and save it as a jpg file....then open that file and you should have a print option available.

The black bars.. I am having trouble visualizing what you are talking about. A screen shot of it so we could see what you are seeing would help.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by b360155 » Tue May 15, 2012 8:07 am

Doing this from memory since I'm at work right now and don't have my ResScan reports in front of me. If you want to print the graphs like you see on the screen when you are looking at Overview, I believe your only option is like Pugsy says is to use a print screen or sniping tool to save the image and then print. If you want to print it as part of a report, then in ResScan, you need to go into Reports first. At the top of the page, you should then see a box with a drop down arrow and if you click on that, you should get a list of a variety of pre-formatted reports for different data and time frames. Click on whichever one you want and the software will generate a report with graphs in a .pdf file which you can then print.

The black lines that you speak of in the Usage graphs are as you mentioned, gaps where you didn't have the machine turned on. If you have a bigger time gap, then you'll just see an empty space in your graphs. But if your gap was of shorter duration...like if you turn it off to re-adjust your mask and then turn it back on within a few minutes, you'll see a black line or bar instead of the gap.

Not sure about your third question. You might try to reboot your machine by turning it off and then turning back on. One thing that does come to mind though is that whenever you remove or insert your SD card from/into the machine, you should switch off the power to the machine first. If you don't, sometimes that can create problems with the SD card.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Tue May 15, 2012 3:27 pm

I downloaded the card again, and the missing days showed up.

I have never figured out how to use print screen. I have tried pushing the button, but i can't paste into photoshop.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Pugsy » Tue May 15, 2012 3:37 pm

Vista and Windows 7 have the Snipping Tool for screen shots..greatest thing since sliced bread. (Vista Basic and Win 7 Basic may not offer it and neither does XP)

If you are having trouble mastering screen shots with prt/scr key and pasting into Paint or other program and saving them then get one of the free screen capture programs that are available online. There is no need to purchase one.
Screen Hunter is free and used by several forum members here. Pretty simple to use and makes it easy to get the images saved. Once saved then you can do anything you want with them.

I used saved screen shots to post images of reports.

Edit: For Vista and Win 7 users...to check to see if you have the Snipping Tool look in AllPrograms/Accessories and if you have it then it will be in Accessories. See it there....right click on it and choose "pin to start menu" and then you won't have to go hunting for it all the time. It will be right there on your Start Menu for quick easy access.

Mac users...need to specify Mac computer and someone with a Mac can explain how to get screen shots.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by jen4700 » Tue May 15, 2012 4:16 pm

Mac screen shots are wicked easy

Cmd + Shift + 3 = full screen shot.
Cmd + Shift + 4 = partial screen, just click and drag the mouse over the area you want to photograph

The screen shot file is automatically saved to your Desktop folder.

There are more, search shortcut keys in help.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Wed May 16, 2012 12:32 am

Thanks for the directions with the snipping tool. It worked great! I had no idea that even existed, and that screen capture thing has never worked for me before.

I'm going to try and add a photo here. I see the code for IMG, but not attach, so I will upload it to my website and post the link and see if it shows the pic here or just the link. There are black sections and blank sections. I assume the blank sections are when the machine is off. So, I don't understand what the black sections are since they are sometimes longer then the blank sections.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Ziege » Wed May 16, 2012 7:39 am

Another Resmed question.....

It's cold where I am, so I use the ClimateLine with a super home-made wrap.
Temp is set to 26degC (79degF).

The other night, I woke up shivering and found I was breathing room temp air, which was @#$%& cold.
All the hardware and settings appeared perfect except for one thing.
I must have previously bumped the control and it was still waiting for me to adjust the temp.
I cancelled that, finished swearing and everything has been OK since.

I'm not cerain that this was the problem.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing, or is my machine/hose about to pass away?

Ziggy

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Pugsy » Wed May 16, 2012 7:48 am

If you look at the daily detailed graphs for one of those nights with the black bars what do you see?
I don't have any black bars at all on my reports but then I don't have the breaks in therapy that you are showing either.

Ziege wrote: is my machine/hose about to pass away?
You might want to have a backup ClimateLine available if you don't already. It is possible that the heating wires in the hose are becoming frayed..if they break...no heated tube.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by gertrude » Wed May 16, 2012 8:05 am

I have the same machine that you do and also some black bars on my summary graphs. They correspond to when I turned the machine off, but not for very long. For example, a few minutes to get up and go to the bathroom. The thickness of the bar seems proportional to the time the machine is off. The white spaces correspond to longer breaks with the machine off. There must be a threshold and when the machine is off long enough it is treated as off and not as a break.

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by NateS » Wed May 16, 2012 12:22 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote:I really like the data in Resmed, but I have a couple questions.

1) How do I print the summary page that shows the days side by side, by sleep hour, pressure, etc? I really like seeing this report, but I can't print it.
I know you mean ResScan. It is all well and good to use Window's Print Screen to get screen shots, but if you really want to get custom and/or detailed graphs and data preserved on your computer and/or printed out on paper, in my opinion you are better off using the built-in features of ResScan.

From the Report menu (icon at far right of top of screen calls it up) you have the option of many standard and/or customized reports, which you can send completely to your printer from the Print menu, or better yet use the Save As… menu to save them to your computer's hard disk as PDFs for viewing or printing any time. You will then have Reports which are as complete and easy to read and study as the ones your sleep lab creates for themselves, except that you can have as much or as little data and/or graphs as you choose to have.

Then you don't have to jockey around trying to get everything within the borders of your computer screen in order to take usable screen shots of graphs, etc.

And you can just as easily upload complete PDFs to sites like Photobucket in order to include them here on cpaptalk. Just be sure to use Photobucket's built in function to obliterate your name and machine no.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Questions with using Resmed

Post by Ziege » Wed May 16, 2012 5:37 pm

It's not really a black bar. It's just the thin black border of the orange bit.
If you have a short period of usage (or non-usage), the borders merge into a thicker black line.
If you have a few of these periods together, it becomes increasingly thicker.

Without clicking anything, put your mouse cursor over the orange bar.
You get a list of mask events showing the times that your machine was working.
See if it shows short periods.

Above the graph, there's an icon to "Show/Hide Graph Information Panel".
Hit that and set it to 1 graph visible at a time.
You may need to scroll to find the Usage graph which will now fill the screen.
Many of the black bits will "un-merge" and the others are still too short to display properly.

Possible causes and cures.....
1. As previously stated, you go to the toilet a lot.
Get your sugar tolerance checked and drink less of anything except water.
2. You get short power failures.
Check your hardware and connections. Plug it into a UPS to ensure reliable incoming supply.
3. You have EXTREME leakage issues and auto power is enabled.
Check your gear. Disable auto power and see if increased Leaks occur on the graph.
5. You computer hardware isn't capable of displaying the fine lines.
Get a huge monitor and good display card. Set it to a much higher resolution.
Tell your spouse that I said it was essential to fix your sleep problems.

Ziggy.

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