DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

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DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by ameriken » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:44 pm

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Another great meeting today! I truly love seeing people come and get help or learn something new that they were unable to find out elsewhere (myself included). I guess sometimes there are things that you can only pick up from talking to other people face to face by hearing from their knowledge and experience.

I hope to see some more new folks at Februarys meeting!

When: Saturday February 25 10AM

Where: LOCATION: Perkins Restaurant 8691 Sheridan Blvd. It's at the stoplight one block south of 88th Ave. If you're coming from the Boulder Tpke (Hwy 36), get off at Sheridan and head south about 1/2 mile.

Anyone and everyone is invited and there are no requirements to join. If you're new to sleep apnea, a forum member or guest, a veteran cpapper, or a spouse or partner of someone with sleep apnea, come and join us. We're a relaxed, casual group of sleep apneans who meet once a month to share our problems, concerns, ideas, support, and solutions with each other.

The only thing we ask, is if you plan to attend, please let us know in this thread so we can notify Perkins on the Friday night prior so they can make the appropriate arrangements.


Map:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=8691+sher ... CBsQ8gEwAA

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by ameriken » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:19 pm

BUMPty dumpty.
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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Guest » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:17 am

Kim and Teri-planning on being there! we love the meetings.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by doety » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:12 am

Hi Ameriken: I'll be at the next meeting.
I haven't seen answers to a few questions.
First, what's a DME? I cannot find it, although obviously it's a common term on here.
Second, I'll see a doctor soon about an APAP, both getting one and lessons on using it. I'd like to go armed with the name of the best equipment to ask for. Kaiser will pay for 80%, and certainly will opt for the cheapest machine, but what's the best way to go? This will be a big step for me, going from doing nothing but putting a mask on at night, to taking responsibility for what's really going on. But I'm ready. After reading as much on the site as I could, it seems that Resperonics is not the way to go (sp?). People seem to like Resmed, the S9 series, with auto set advantage.
I'd appreciate any info. Thanks.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Starlette » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:56 am

doety wrote:Hi Ameriken: I'll be at the next meeting.
I haven't seen answers to a few questions.
First, what's a DME? I cannot find it, although obviously it's a common term on here.
Second, I'll see a doctor soon about an APAP, both getting one and lessons on using it. I'd like to go armed with the name of the best equipment to ask for. Kaiser will pay for 80%, and certainly will opt for the cheapest machine, but what's the best way to go? This will be a big step for me, going from doing nothing but putting a mask on at night, to taking responsibility for what's really going on. But I'm ready. After reading as much on the site as I could, it seems that Resperonics is not the way to go (sp?). People seem to like Resmed, the S9 series, with auto set advantage.
I'd appreciate any info. Thanks.
Good morning Doety.

DME - Stands for "Durable Medical Equipment" - They're the folks we all get our XPAP machines, equipment & supplies from.
2nd paragraph - I'll direct Pugsy to you to get clarification.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:50 pm

doety wrote: After reading as much on the site as I could, it seems that Resperonics is not the way to go (sp?). People seem to like Resmed, the S9 series, with auto set advantage.
I have no idea which brand Kaiser has contracted to offer through which ever DME supplier they have chosen. In all honesty all the major brands will do an excellent job as far as their intended goal which is of course...prevent the apnea events from occurring. The major differences in all the brands are perhaps different algorithms, some various comfort features and the amount of data they collect and availability of any software to easily monitor the data. Here on this forum you will find that the major players are Respironics, ResMed, DeVilbiss and Fisher & Paykel. Each brand will have a basic no frills model up to the upper end models with all the comfort features and full data scoring capability.

What we complain more about here is the basic models that don't offer the ability to score full data. The basic (el cheapo) models will only gather hours of use and no other data that might be useful to evaluate the level of therapy effectiveness. We call them "bricks" because while they probably do a great job with preventing the apnea events....you have zero way of knowing what is going on beyond "how you feel" and if you happen to not feel the miracle overnight like you are a new person, you have zero way to try to figure out what might be going on to keep you from feeling so great.

If you have full data available along with easily obtainable software then you stand a better chance of figuring out why you might not feel so great.

I would suggest that you read the blog that one of our forum members has started. Read about which machines have full data and which machines don't and which ones has easily used software.
http://maskarrayed.wordpress.com/ Also she has another section on what you need to know before you meet your DME.

The 2 main players are Respironics and ResMed machines. Both are well known and both have new technology machines with data on the SD cards that can be used with software. You just have to educate yourself on which models offer full data and which models only offer basic hours of use on that SD card. Don't rely on the presence of a SD card to guarantee full data.

Respironics machines are excellent machines. I don't know where you got the idea that they were inferior because they are not inferior at all. ResMed may have some different features than the Respironics machines but they both are extremely effective and comfortable to use.
Both brands have the basic el cheapo brick models.

I have used a Respironics machine for nearly 3 years now. Last month I got a chance to try a ResMed machine. I am going to be honest. They are both quality machines and both treated my OSA very effectively and the minor differences in algorithms and other features were not an issue at all. Each one has something a little different than the other. Each one has a couple of pros and cons.

When you are researching machines....stick with the latest technology machines.
Respironics PR System One machines and the ResMed S9 machines. Older machines did a great job but the SD cards makes using software so much easier and less costly.

The machines to avoid.....in the ResMed S9 models...anything with "Escape" in the model name.
....in the Respironics models ....anything with "Plus" in the model name (not to be confused with the plus + at the end of Flex options.

If it were me I would first find out if I have to use a single specific DME to have my insurance pay the bill. Then I would go to that DME and find out what brand they normally supply and then which model. Then go from there with my research. Some DMEs will supply top of the line in the brand...some go el cheapo. If you have a choice of DMEs that are part of your insurance network...then go check each one to see what they offer. I wouldn't worry about a fight to get the machine I wanted until I saw for sure there was going to be a fight.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Starlette » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:18 pm

bumpity bump!

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by ameriken » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:59 pm

Hi everyone, sorry I missed your question Doety, I haven't been on for a few days.

Anyhow, this is just another bumpty-dumpty. 3 more weeks till our next meeting! I love the snow but I hope and pray it's clear for our meeting.

Looks like we have 5 so far, Starlette, ameriken, Doety, Sandman and Teknomom. I'm sure Carbonman will be there.

Sign up here...just drop us a quick post to let us know if you plan to attend!
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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by carbonman » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:20 pm

ameriken wrote:I'm sure Carbonman will be there.
Thank you!

I'm working hard at recruiting some coworkers.
Just happened to discover another 'paper that has given up.
I gave him a gentle pep talk. Showed him what his machine is.
Explained it is 3rd generation, not data capable.
Explained the importance of data capability,
stressed that HE is responsible for his therapy,
not sleep ctrs., sleep docs or DMEs.
Sent him a link to this thread....and
hopefully the start of a cpaptalk education.
.....and urged him to come to our next meeting.

You really have to want it, as we all know...and
until you're ready, it's not going to happen.
I'm out there everyday, looking, listening....and
baiting the hook in casual conversation.
It just amazes me the hits that I get.

I will be there w/the beautiful Mrs.carbonman.
"If your therapy is improving your health but you're not doing anything
to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
I said that.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by ameriken » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:16 pm

Thanks for the update Carbonman, looks like we've got 7 so far
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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Harley Snorzz » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:56 pm

Harley Snorzz here and I plan on attending the DEN forum meet on 2/25/12. That is, should God be willing and the creeks don't rise. Neubee.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Starlette » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:26 pm

Coolness, Harley please to meet you. When you go to Perkins, head to the very back of the restaurant. We're the largest table in back.
When you have some time, kick back and relax and read, read and read some more on the forum. Best place to get educated! I'm sorry you found yourself here but I'm glad you're learning about OSA and how to manage it. *Offers a cup a hot chocolate with some added hooch for the soul and freshly baked cookies* I'm the one the Friday before that will confirm the headcount to the restaurant.

We'll see you then.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by carbonman » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:42 am

Harley Snorzz wrote:Harley Snorzz Neubee.
Harley, you are one lucky Neubee.
No brag, just fact.....you can't buy better support than you will get
from this fine group of 'papers and gentle souls.
.....of which, it is an honor to be a part of.

Welcome!

....God is willing and the creeks ain't go'na rise ......it's too cold.
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to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by Starlette » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:48 pm

Bumpity bump, bump, bump

KIND REMINDER: We're a week away from our next meeting. Again, next Friday I'll be calling into Perkins to confirm headcount.
So, if you haven't said something, now is the time to pipe up to confirm a seat.

See you all then.

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Re: DENVER forum meetup: Saturday February 25, 10am

Post by ameriken » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:17 pm

Just one more week everyone!

Look forward to meeting you, Harley
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