Vitamins for brain to reduce Apnea damage

[BlackSpinner]

The other problem with herbs and vitamins is that how well they work depends on whether you need /lack them.
Every body is different and is different daily. In the summer here there is plenty of sun light and fresh food but from October until May everything socalled fresh is trucked in from far far away. It may look fresh but wet sawdust has more taste and micro nutrients then some of this stuff I see in the store.
Yes I take a lot of vitamins in the winter otherwise my joints hurt. Plus a lot of D because though it was sunny last week (between 10am and 3pm) it was also -34C with a windchill of -48C. I doubt the little bit of skin around my eyes was picking up much sunshine as I waddled from the house to the car.

[purple]

Wow, once again I must have miss written that. The recommendation for Vitamin D3 for Diabetes was at the large diabetes conference last spring, I think in San Francisco. That recommendation was the result of several studies that the medical doctors approved of and thought highly of. So much, that if one is a Diabetic, then when one visits one's MD today, then the diabetic is told to take 500 D3 daily from now on. On the other hand, the health food community has had the same recommendation since at least the 1990's. This is just the medical community having a study they trust that agrees with what the health food/vitamin advocates have been saying since at least the 1990's. And as we all know, the medical community does not much like the vitamin store industry.

In general, as an MD once said to me, "There is no standard for the nutritional supplement, No telling whether there is anything good in them, or what bad is in them.

[VVV]

How many have tried or continue to use supplements for the brain.

Flying home yesterday morning from a 12-day business trip I felt fatigued and in need of a brain booster. An article in the WSJ grabbed my attention.

Citicoline is an organic molecule found naturally in the body, particularly the brain. Scientists believe citicoline speeds up formation of brain cell membranes and may boost production of neurotransmitters essential to brain function.

In some countries, citicoline is sold as a prescription drug to help regenerate the brain after a stroke.

In October, citicoline hit the U.S. market in liquid form as a "medical food" called CerAxon for use in patients with stroke and traumatic brain injury. Medical foods don't require FDA approval but their labels must be truthful and they can be subject to a post-market review, the FDA says. CerAxon, which is sold by Ferrer Group of Barcelona, comes in two daily doses of 1,000 milligrams each. It doesn't require a prescription, but is intended to be used under a doctor's direction, Ferrer says.

Among a bevy of dietary supplements and energy drinks aimed at healthy people, citicoline is frequently found under the brand name Cognizin, sold by Kyowa Hakko USA, a unit of Japan's Kirin Holdings.

You can read the article here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 93522.html

What do you think?

Until more information is available I will stick with the last line in the article:

Exercise and a diet rich in antioxidants are likely more important for healthy people simply interested in boosting their brain function, adds Dr. Small.

[archangle]

Wow, once again I must have miss written that. The recommendation for Vitamin D3 for Diabetes was at the large diabetes conference last spring, I think in San Francisco. That recommendation was the result of several studies that the medical doctors approved of and thought highly of. So much, that if one is a Diabetic, then when one visits one's MD today, then the diabetic is told to take 500 D3 daily from now on. On the other hand, the health food community has had the same recommendation since at least the 1990's. This is just the medical community having a study they trust that agrees with what the health food/vitamin advocates have been saying since at least the 1990's. And as we all know, the medical community does not much like the vitamin store industry.

In general, as an MD once said to me, "There is no standard for the nutritional supplement, No telling whether there is anything good in them, or what bad is in them.

D3 in reasonable quantities is probably safe and cheap. Why not take it? Just don't expect a miracle or neglect more effective and proven treatments.

[chunkyfrog]

There doesn't appear to be a direct correlation between cost and benefit.
That is good to know. I avoid really 'new' or exotic stuff, especially if it's pricey.
A lot of iffy stuff has little or no test data behind it--
and I would just plain avoid something that's so proprietary there is no independent data available.

[Emilia]

This was released today: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/governme ... mentation/

[Burkebang]

After reading a lot about vitamin/hormone D3, I decided to get some and try it. Within a couple of days of starting to take the vitamin, my average APAP pressure dropped from 10-12 down to 6-8. This trend seems to be holding over time.

Thankfully, I use a really WIDE pressure range on my machine, otherwise I might not have found out about this. Living with such low average pressures is just wonderful, it's MUCH better than the 10-12 I had before. I'm getting the best sleep of my life, something my new Zeo Mobile confirms. I'm very close to getting the optimal amount of light, deep and REM sleep.

This is certainly no scientific study, just a series of very positive observations after starting to take the vitamin. It could also just be that I have become used to my CPAP machine and not a result of the vitamin. But since there seem to be no harm in trying it, I'd recommend trying it to anybody who is not getting the rest they should be getting from their sleep. I have been taking 25 microgram two times a day, morning and evening. This is 2000 international units pr. day. As I understand it, this should not be a problem, even if my level was normal before starting the supplement (I really must get it checked).

[purple]

Insofar as some things one might eat or take to improve one's mental function. Some of you might look at the book, "Your Miracle Brain." by Jean Carper, which was published years, and use it as a basis to google for whether the recommendations in it are still well thought of.

Jean Carper is not a doctor, but a researcher who read all the literature that was current just before she wrote her book. Most of her suggestions had to do with diet. Like eating a cup of either blueberries or strawberries every day. Eat the right kinds of fish several times a week. The value of tea, which talks about different types of tea and exactly how to make it and drink it.

Most of her top list of to do's is not about taking a supplement, it is about what one should eat and how frequently.

[VVV]

Insofar as some things one might eat or take to improve one's mental function. Some of you might look at the book, "Your Miracle Brain." by Jean Carper, which was published years, and use it as a basis to google for whether the recommendations in it are still well thought of.

Jean Carper is not a doctor, but a researcher who read all the literature that was current just before she wrote her book. Most of her suggestions had to do with diet. Like eating a cup of either blueberries or strawberries every day. Eat the right kinds of fish several times a week. The value of tea, which talks about different types of tea and exactly how to make it and drink it.

Most of her top list of to do's is not about taking a supplement, it is about what one should eat and how frequently.

That makes the most sense to me. Vegetables, berries, and moderate amounts of fruits, nuts, olive oil, fatty fish, and otherwise lean meats. Stay away from grains and sugars and fruit juices. No need to read a book.

Don't forget exercise. I love it.

The importance of doing productive things and enjoying social relationships is rarely mentioned.

In the end you will die anyway but might as well enjoy the trip.

Thanks.

[SleepyJohn]

Not all berries are Good berries:

http://www.rodale.com/strawberries-methyl-iodide

or

http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/summary/

Do you think it matters?

[Gazhacks]

Vitamins for brain to reduce Apnea damage

I have chased a few of these down in my days and concluded my efforts are better spent in the following manner:

AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES:
...
1. AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP.

2. AVOID ARGUMENTS WITH THE FEMALES ABOUT LIFTING THE TOILET SEAT BY USING THE SINK.

3. FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SUFFERERS ~ SIMPLY CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED FOR A FEW MINUTES, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON YOUR VEINS. REMEMBER TO USE A TIMER.

4. A MOUSE TRAP PLACED ON TOP OF YOUR ALARM CLOCK WILL PREVENT YOU FROM ROLLING OVER AND GOING BACK TO SLEEP AFTER YOU HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON.

5. IF YOU HAVE A BAD COUGH, TAKE A LARGE DOSE OF LAXATIVES. THEN YOU'LL BE AFRAID TO COUGH.

6. YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.

7. IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.

I know this is a serious matter but Im still laughing at this

[VVV]

I know this is a serious matter but Im still laughing at this

I do recommend locking all the knives in the house in a safe that your wife does not know the combination to before trying that number two. Lorena Bobbit ring a bell?

[VVV]

Not all berries are Good berries:

http://www.rodale.com/strawberries-methyl-iodide

or

http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/summary/

Do you think it matters?

I will keep eating strawberries from CA. But I can tell you when the local strawberries are in season they are so much better that they don't even seem like the same fruit. (Are berries a fruit? "They" always say "fruits and berries", so maybe not.)

I won't worry about methyl iodide at this point. Many of my friends have had cancer and a few have died from it. None of them ever said the doctor tied it back to trace amounts of chemicals they had ingested.

Another friend who is a chemist tells me that strawberries that are overripe have produced, in the breakdown process, a certain chemical which is more cancer-causing than any synthetically-produced chemical. This is based on the work of Dr. Bruce Ames:

Paracelsus, a 16th Century Swiss physician, made the key point that "Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dose makes it either a poison or a remedy." Dr. Bruce Ames, who developed one of the most frequently used tests for cancer-causing potential, wrote, "The vast bulk of the chemicals humans are exposed to are natural, and for every chemical some amount is dangerous."1

For instance, Ames has found that coffee is about 50 times more carcinogenic than DDT, and more than 66 times more carcinogenic than the most dangerous present-day pesticide, called ETU.2 Coffee is made up of over 1,000 chemicals, 70 percent of which are thought to be carcinogenic.3 Yet, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) does not ban or even regulate exposure to coffee because these carcinogens are not harmful in the concentrations found in coffee. Yet, the United States and other nations banned DTT because of the misperception that it was dangerous at any concentration. http://freedom21.org/alternative/chapter4.html

I did find this comment on methyl iodide:

When, after five years of rigorous scientific scrutiny conducted by what the EPA Administrator described as "the most comprehensive and thorough in the agency's history," they registered methyl iodide in 2007 for use in the U.S.A., all of the false and misleading claims made in the petition and now repeated by California Assembly Member Monning were carefully reviewed and described in the agency's Risk Assessment. More than 100 highly qualified scientists and toxicologists studied or tested methyl iodide in the lab and in the field during that review prior to granting registration. Strict mitigations and protective measures were included on the product label to avoid exposure to people or the environment of this very useful crop protection tool. In addition, the agency gave its inventors its prestigious Ozone Layer Protection Award in 2009.

Methyl iodide is a naturally occurring compound produced by algae and kelp in the world's oceans and terrestrially by plants, bacteria, and fungus--by the hundreds of thousands of tons annually.

I am in the mood for some strawberry yogurt right now! Chemophobes - pah on you!

[VVV]

I know this is a serious matter but Im still laughing at this

Speaking of diet and humor,

[SleepyJohn]

I am in the mood for some strawberry yogurt right now! Chemophobes - pah on you!

Yup, it appears to be working already!

Or maybe its the Methyl Bromide they have been using for years. You want DDT with that?
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/ex ... e-ext.html

Its good to know that the EPA is keeping us all safe now, anyway
http://grist.org/food/sterile-soil-dirty-hands/

or maybe not:

UCLA professor John Froines, who led the peer review committee, appeared at a state Assembly hearing in Sacramento last April and said "science was subverted" in the state's decision to approve methyl iodide.

"I would not want my family, my friends or anyone else to live or work or go to school near fields where this methyl iodide will be used," Froines said after detailing the chemical's properties that are known to cause cancer and damage nervous systems. "You had the best science you could have had, and the fact that it was ignored is devastating."

Full article here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/1 ... 48632.html