Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

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Re: OT and OT Musings

Post by RocketGirl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:02 am

kteague wrote:
VVV wrote:Is it true that most people, whether by failure after starting or never starting or staying away from a diagnosis, choose not to treat sleep apnea? Choose to suffer the health problems and decreased longevity?
In my mind, the foremost contributor to failure to seek a diagnosis or treatment is ignorance. For some the decline is nearly imperceptible until there is a recognition trigger. Makes me think of how not so long ago a person could be enjoying their life in the sun until one day they looked in the mirror and were surprised to see undeniable changes in the form of wrinkles. By then the process had done some damage. When I was young, little was being said to warn of this. Now when one sees sun damaged skin staring back at them from the mirror, they knew good and well it was likely to catch up with them someday as the risk is common knowledge. Even so, not everyone heeds the warnings. Discussions of sleep apnea and its potential consequences haven't yet saturated the consciousness of society at large.

Second in my mind is denial. Can't believe it could happen to me. Can't believe it's that big a big deal. Can't believe that could be responsible for my symptoms. At that point, maybe ignorance becomes a choice, but I think that oversimplifies the problem. Handling of OSA may just be a part of a larger pattern in handling our personal health care, whether the root cause is personal inclinations, financial limitations, or - - - whatever. We are conditioned to hear the word cancer and feel an immediate sense of urgency. I don't know of one person in my circle of friends, family or acquaintances who has espressed a sense of urgency about being told they might have sleep apnea. Awareness and education are in my estimation sorely lacking, but even then, some will choose to do nothing with that knowledge.
True, these. I'd bet that there's a third one, though, in the case of commercial drivers, and that is the fear that they'll lose their CDL and thus their livelihood if they get the diagnosis and the treatment doesn't fully treat it, or takes a while before they see improvement.

It doesn't make good sense, and it's certainly not safe, but I've seen it in other things where a particular medical diagnosis is antithetical to employment. I have known several people over the years who would privately admit to serious depression, but would not see a doctor because even the hint of such a thing would lose them their jobs. I suspect that that kind of fear trumps all other logic in many cases.


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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by jnk » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:35 am

Perrybucsdad wrote:okay, mine is OT, but my musing is why don't they put scoops in coffe cans anymore?
One theory is that the lack of a standard had created coffee "chaos," and there was fear that confusion would collapse the entire industry. As one source states, "variations" were "too great," and informal research found that "some scoops were 6 grams, some 8, some as much as 14!" ( http://paravisinicoffee.com/equipment/d ... ffee_scoop )This lack of a standard was confusing to customers, much as the variations in the proprietary definitions of hypopnea among blower manufacturers continues to be confusing to blower users. Therefore, one theory is that many coffee producers adopted a solution to their problem that is similar to the ResMed-S9-hypopnea solution to the hypopnea-definition problem in the sleep industry, not providing any precisely defined scoop at all.

It's so darned hard for me to stay off-topic. Or on topic. I'm not even sure I understand the concept of "topic." I think topics should be stacked sideways so that the gravity of the topics doesn't bend or warp the threads over time, though.

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by RocketGirl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:44 am

Perrybucsdad wrote:okay, mine is OT, but my musing is why don't they put scoops in coffe cans anymore?
Probably for the same reason that the coffee instructions now use 5 ounces as the definition of a cup!

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by 2 B Sleeping Soundly » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:49 am

I have a large white coffee cup I bought a few years ago at Starbucks. That is what I use as my 'cup' of coffee (its 20 oz. - Venti)

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by RocketGirl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:55 am

Exactly! I went on a rampage a while back and measured the volume of every coffee cup I own. Most of the regular cups and mugs are 8-10 ounces; the big ones are like yours, 20 ounces or so. The only cups that came close to 5 ounces were the fussy dainty ones that go with my great-grandma's teapot.

(Yes, I take my coffee seriously.)

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by 2 B Sleeping Soundly » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:03 am

by RocketGirl on Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:55 am

Exactly! I went on a rampage a while back and measured the volume of every coffee cup I own. Most of the regular cups and mugs are 8-10 ounces; the big ones are like yours, 20 ounces or so. The only cups that came close to 5 ounces were the fussy dainty ones that go with my great-grandma's teapot.
Yeah, it is like they think we are somehow size challenged and don't notice the ever shrinking coffee cup. Same thing for Ice Cream... No, no, I won't get started on that one!

The fussy dainty cups you refer to are only good for table display or for a nice large expresso shot

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by tetragon » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:04 am

RocketGirl wrote:
Perrybucsdad wrote:okay, mine is OT, but my musing is why don't they put scoops in coffe cans anymore?
Probably for the same reason that the coffee instructions now use 5 ounces as the definition of a cup!
How many people notice that packets of hot chocolate are designed with only 175mL of water in mind? Not enough. Too many people serve "hot chocolate" that is merely brown water. Hmm… perhaps I will violate the "no caffeine" thing I'm doing in favour of the hot chocolate from a chocolatier that I like.

My method of making hot chocolate from a canister, perfected in cheap, student life:
  1. grab ingredients and equipment
  2. put water in kettle
  3. turn on kettle
  4. fill mug with mix until it is 25% full
  5. add spices to taste (cinnamon, ginger, and a touch of cayenne is yummy)
  6. pour a small spoonful of water (not from kettle) into mix
  7. stir mix, spices, and water until it forms a smooth slurry (a few more drops of water can be added if necessary)
  8. wait for kettle to boil
  9. fill mug to desired fullness with hot water
  10. mix well (water level should decrease)
  11. top up with heavy cream

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Re: OT and OT Musings

Post by Really » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:31 am

deltadave wrote:Changing front brakes and rotors. Waiting for the parts babe to get back.
You found tools that fit in your hand? You may be closer to earth people than originally thought.
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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by deltadave » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:40 am

tetragon wrote:
  • fill mug to desired fullness with hot water
Water??!!!

Blaspheme!!!
...other than food...

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Re: OT and OT Musings

Post by deltadave » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:42 am

Really wrote:
deltadave wrote:Changing front brakes and rotors. Waiting for the parts babe to get back.
You found tools that fit in your hand? You may be closer to earth people than originally thought.
They make tools for this?
...other than food...

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by RocketGirl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:51 am

deltadave wrote:
tetragon wrote:
  • fill mug to desired fullness with hot water
Water??!!!

Blaspheme!!!
Coffee. Fill mug to desired fullness with hot coffee...

Why isn't there an eyes roll blissfully back in head smiley?


ETA: tetragon, you're right about the packets, and your recipe does sound like good hot chocolate!
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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by 2 B Sleeping Soundly » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:54 am

You said it my coffee sister!!!!

It is the best... <sigh>

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by RocketGirl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:58 am

2 B Sleeping Soundly wrote:You said it my coffee sister!!!!

It is the best... <sigh>

John
Right on, my coffee brother!!!

Guess who's now headed out to the market for some hot chocolate mix...

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Re: Off-Topic and On-Topic Musings (OT and OT)

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:06 am

My mocha recipe:
1 packet Swiss Miss sugar free cocoa mix
1 level teaspoon instant coffee of my choice
Put in 10 oz cup, fill to 3/4 with hot water from dispenser
Top off with generous amount of half and half and a couple of squirts of sugar free Kahlua syrup.
Dessert in a mug. Yummmmm.

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