dropping humidifier?
dropping humidifier?
Sheriff Buford brought up a good point, so I wanted to ping the group to see what they thought. He mentioned that he rarely ever uses the humidifier with his system, and I'm thinking I might want to give that a try.
Even with a FFM, I still get dry mouth now and then (and I have to use the FFM because my tongue relaxes at night causing mouth leaks even with a chin strap). Fiddling with the ResMed Hi5 humidifier with and without the ClimateLine hose never seems to eleviate the dry mouth completely, and frankly the stupid ClimateLine hose system is RIFE with problems. I've personally experienced the hose contacts coming lose and the whole system going to full heat and staying there for no reason.
Is it worth trying a few nights without the humidifier at all to see the difference (if any)? Or is humidification always better for most people?
Some notes:
I'm in NYC, so temperatures right now are anywhere from 60 degrees down to 35 or so.
I live in a basement apartment, which means that humidity is generally from 30-50 percent all year long. Right now it's averaging about 33-35 percent.
I have radiator-based heat, though it's only come on twice since we've had a very mild fall.
I DO use a room humidifier during the winter months, and keep the apartment at 33-40 percent humidity.
Thanks.
Even with a FFM, I still get dry mouth now and then (and I have to use the FFM because my tongue relaxes at night causing mouth leaks even with a chin strap). Fiddling with the ResMed Hi5 humidifier with and without the ClimateLine hose never seems to eleviate the dry mouth completely, and frankly the stupid ClimateLine hose system is RIFE with problems. I've personally experienced the hose contacts coming lose and the whole system going to full heat and staying there for no reason.
Is it worth trying a few nights without the humidifier at all to see the difference (if any)? Or is humidification always better for most people?
Some notes:
I'm in NYC, so temperatures right now are anywhere from 60 degrees down to 35 or so.
I live in a basement apartment, which means that humidity is generally from 30-50 percent all year long. Right now it's averaging about 33-35 percent.
I have radiator-based heat, though it's only come on twice since we've had a very mild fall.
I DO use a room humidifier during the winter months, and keep the apartment at 33-40 percent humidity.
Thanks.
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If it was summer for me I would be more inclined to try without the humidifer, BUT it gets real dry here in MInnesota in the wintetr months pluss i live in an old drafty house. I have never tried to sleep without the humidifer.
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Re: dropping humidifier?
This is strictly going to be up to you and your nasal mucosa and how it reacts to no additional moisture. You may have enough in the ambient room air.
Me? No way. First summer I started therapy, and in a basement bedroom, I lowered the humidifier setting to 1 from 3 and my nasal mucosa screamed bloody murder about it. Sneezing, congestion, runny nose, painful sinuses...horrible..took 3 days for my mucosa to forgive me. I know it wasn't something else (like allergy or cold) because 2 other times I forgot to fill the humidifier and ran out of water and exact same thing happened.
It is all going to depend on how much moisture your nasal mucosa and sinuses wants or needs. Only way to know is to try it. Everyone's body is simply different in regards to how much moisture is needed for comfort.
Me? No way. First summer I started therapy, and in a basement bedroom, I lowered the humidifier setting to 1 from 3 and my nasal mucosa screamed bloody murder about it. Sneezing, congestion, runny nose, painful sinuses...horrible..took 3 days for my mucosa to forgive me. I know it wasn't something else (like allergy or cold) because 2 other times I forgot to fill the humidifier and ran out of water and exact same thing happened.
It is all going to depend on how much moisture your nasal mucosa and sinuses wants or needs. Only way to know is to try it. Everyone's body is simply different in regards to how much moisture is needed for comfort.
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I am surprised you have had such trouble with the climate line system. I have had zero trouble so far. Now watch something happen. I am very comfortable with mine. One time I lowered the temp on the climate line and paid the price with nasal dryness and burning the next day. I don't think a humdifier is a luxury. I wonder if you should just try a new climate line?
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I think you should try and see if you can go without, those humidity levels sound comfortable. Also I read somewhere that the official line from Resmed is not to use an additional in room humidifier when you are using the H5i.
Is your machine under warranty? if so why not get the freakin humidifier/climateline looked at or repaired in case you find you need it?
Is your machine under warranty? if so why not get the freakin humidifier/climateline looked at or repaired in case you find you need it?
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Checkout the product images for this F&P humidifier to understand their take on leaks/humidity & mouth drying and what they call a vicious cycle, don't want to get stuck in a vicious cycle !!
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... ifier.html
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... ifier.html
Re: dropping humidifier?
Yeah, I've been debating it, but frankly the ClimateLine system is just plagued with problems from leaky hoses to outright malfunctions. My next machine with NOT be a ResMed, that's for sure.
I'll keep the humidifier going w/o the ClimateLine system (just regular, heated humidifier through the Hi5 w/o the CL hose) and then experiment.
I'm not very happy with ResMed in general, and will be buying a new machine in late December, using some FSA money I have to spend or I lose =) I figure I'll get an F&P Icon Auto, but I'll ping the group with a few choices and see what people think of them.
I'll keep the humidifier going w/o the ClimateLine system (just regular, heated humidifier through the Hi5 w/o the CL hose) and then experiment.
I'm not very happy with ResMed in general, and will be buying a new machine in late December, using some FSA money I have to spend or I lose =) I figure I'll get an F&P Icon Auto, but I'll ping the group with a few choices and see what people think of them.
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I have an old machine I use for travel that does not have a humidifier. For short periods I don't have problem, but I am now over 3 months and I'm having troubles. I am visiting in another state for a while, and my regular machine is among the items waiting for the money to ship them. I realize it may be a change of climate and/or allergens, but I now have prescription medication for chronic allergy symptoms - never needed this back home. My nose feels dry, throat sore, sneezy - you name it. I am thinking the lack of humidification is an issue for me in the long run.
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I use an additional humidifier in the bedroom for my wife. I have no problem cause I have my machine but she needs it to keep from drying her nasal passages out during the winter when the heat is on. Resmed say's not to use an additional humidifier in the room, I guess they forget that other people may be sleeping in there also.
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I need a little humidity all the time. I usually keep the humidifier off but full of distilled water(passover mode). I go thru about a tank of water each week. You might want to try it this way first then if you dry out too much during the night you just have to turn it on.
Brenda
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OK, so it seems like ONLY the good Sheriff has had luck with no humidifier LOL. I'll keep it for now, but definitely ditching the ClimateLine stuff until I see that ResMed does some major work on the platform.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question. But is this used with the humidifier that comes with the machine or instead of.Uncle_Bob wrote:Checkout the product images for this F&P humidifier to understand their take on leaks/humidity & mouth drying and what they call a vicious cycle, don't want to get stuck in a vicious cycle !!
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... ifier.html
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What is the proper humidity for the room?
I am just getting started and with the humidifier have come down with a cold after the first night of using the machine. How do you know what you need as far as the humidifier goes. Does your dr have to change the humidity settings?
I am just getting started and with the humidifier have come down with a cold after the first night of using the machine. How do you know what you need as far as the humidifier goes. Does your dr have to change the humidity settings?
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@ Nole27,
There are no stupid questions! These are 2 different humidifiers. The F&P is a stand alone unit that is used instead of the one that is integrated with the unit.
@ QM2A1QR,
The humidifier is for comfort. The correct setting is the one that makes you most comfortable. The only way to know is to try different settings and decide where you are most comfortable.
Brenda
There are no stupid questions! These are 2 different humidifiers. The F&P is a stand alone unit that is used instead of the one that is integrated with the unit.
@ QM2A1QR,
The humidifier is for comfort. The correct setting is the one that makes you most comfortable. The only way to know is to try different settings and decide where you are most comfortable.
Brenda
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Brenda, do you or anyone else know if it is possible to do a Passover mode with a PR System One Humidifier?
John
I haven’t hooked it up to my PR S1 Auto CPAP w/ A-Flex yet because I didn’t want to have the water heated, but if I can just run the Humidifier in the 0 position is this the same as a Passover mode?I need a little humidity all the time. I usually keep the humidifier off but full of distilled water (Passover mode). I go thru about a tank of water each week. You might want to try it this way first then if you dry out too much during the night you just have to turn it on.
Brenda
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