OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by Marietjie » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:04 pm

ameriken wrote:I heard that in some other country (I don't remember which) there are actually 3 possible outcomes of a trial: guitly, not guilty, and not proven. I think the latter would be a fitting outcome of this trial.

However, the prosecution has the final word, I'll be interested in hearing the rebuttal. I'm glad I'm not on this jury.
Ja, I think so too (NOT PROVEN) we are watching this trial on FoxNews.
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by ameriken » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:27 am

So, the jury is in deliberations. Did anyone see any evidence that pointed beyond a reasonable doubt that it was Casey Anthony and not anyone else; that showed beyond a reasonable doubt exactly what she did; when she did it; where she did it; and how she did it? I really wouldn't be surprised if they came back with a not guilty. Lot's of circumstantial evidence that says "I'm pretty sure it was her" and "Yeah, it's gotta be her" but the same circumstantial evidence could really point to someone else in the family being involved in it. Unless I missed something, I don't see any smoking gun that eliminates all doubt that Casey Anthony acted deliberately and alone.

I think the scenario above is entirely possible, that she put her to sleep in the trunk of the car so she could go party, and that backfired, then she tried to cover it up.

If she gets off, it would be an extremely sad day.
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by codinqueen » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:42 pm

The evidence that Casey did not report the child "missing" for 31 days points the finger of guilt at her! Normal, REASONABLE parents do not let their children go missing or "kidnapped" for 31 days before they report it to the authorities, nor do they find their babies dead in swimming pools due to an accident, and not call 911. Then they do not lie to authorities constantly when the police realize the story is hogwash. The fact she did not report the child missing is enough proof for me that she did it, beyond a reasonable doubt, and in the commission of child abuse where the child dies, she is guilty of Felony Murder, which is STill a murder ONE conviction in FLA, as I learned today when Judge Perry explained the law, when he charged the jury before deliberations started. Murder ONE in FL is punishable by death, or life in prison, as I learned through watching HLN over these past weeks. I don't think she will get death penalty because that is too comfortable for her- (she might enjoy the high from the drugs before she stopped breathing,) and I think everyone who believes she is guilty wants to make her suffer. I sure hope they put her in general population in prison, so the women can take care of her, and that will prevent my tax dollars from supporting her sorry butt in prison, or the possibility of future appeals. I don't want to support her living the "Bella Vita" that she got tattooed on her shoulder while she was "grieving" and "looking" for her missing daughter in Fusion and other bars in Orlando. What really surprises me is how did her parents NOT realize she wasn't working for those 2 years, and WHERE, oh WHERE did she get her money to party and buy tattoos?

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by OceanGoingGal » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:21 am

This case has huge interest everywhere. I remember 3 years ago when the news first broke. I was morbidly interested in every detail. I watched Nancy Grace every night. Watched over and over the jail visit videos. I was then and am still now convinced of her guilt. I do hope there will be justice for that beautiful child. As for Cindy's actions I do not excuse them but I can understand. This woman lost her beloved granddaughter. As a Mother she was willing to sacrifice herself to save the life of her daughter. This whole case is tragic. So sad that a child has to die because mom is too selfish to stay home and be a mother.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by Marietjie » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:12 am

codinqueen wrote:. . . What really surprises me is how did her parents NOT realize she wasn't working for those 2 years, and WHERE, oh WHERE did she get her money to party and buy tattoos?
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by JointPain » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:34 am

All the media attention and witch hunting by the media and the intense focus on Casey Anthony's inappropriate behavior reminds me of the
Azaria Chamberlain case, in which a young mother was convicted of murder after a dingo snatched her baby and she didn't behave like she should have afterwards.

Relying on strange behavior to justify a murder charge is very, very dangerous ground, and Casey Anthony's behavior is certainly central to the prosecution's case.

On the other hand, she should be convicted and pay the penalty if she is guilty.

It is unreasonable to demand CSI-like evidence in order to convict someone. That show's ability to get evidence is really annoying (My pet peeve is their ability to magnify a single pixel reflection on a grainy photograph into a high resolution photograph of the murderer.) and I've heard that it is a real problem as some jurors just won't convict without that kind of evidence.

The standard for conviction is no reasonable doubt, not absolutely no doubt whatsoever, which would basically be impossible to meet ever.

So, I'm glad that the jury is deliberating carefully and not rushing to judgement. It can't have been a good experience, either to have seen all the evidence or to have been sequestered for so long.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by ameriken » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:28 am

News says a verdict is coming in about 30 minutes.
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by JDS74 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:38 pm

I watched some of the trial and a lot of the lynch mob mentality of the prosecution.
I think the jury was saying they wanted no part of being a lynch mob.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by jabman » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:50 pm

She was fond Not Gulity for first degree murder. she is gulity on other charges but didn,t see what they were.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by ameriken » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:56 pm

She was not guilty in all of the charges relating to Caley's death, but she was guilty of all the charges related to lying to the police.
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by ameriken » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:02 pm

Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson are good examples of why we should have a 'Not Proven' verdict.
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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by BleepingBeauty » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:18 pm

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by Bobby269 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:21 pm

No justice. She was found not guilty except for I believe lying.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by tgzlavistane » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:20 pm

I have no appietite and a sick feeling in my stomach. Our legal system failed to bring justice to the one responsible for the death of that poor child who's name was Caylee.

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Re: OT- Casey Anthony Trial in FL

Post by fuzzy96 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:14 pm

just listen to glenn fry -Dirty Laundry it explins it all