Mask for high pressure

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
angelbyte

Mask for high pressure

Post by angelbyte » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:09 am

Hi.

I need to use 19 cms of pressure, and at that pressure, it is almost impossible to find a mask that doesn't leak. Any suggestions? I've tried the Activa and Activa LT, the Mirage, and the comfort gel full face mask. My CPAP provider is useless.

McSleepy
Posts: 489
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:32 pm
Location: USA

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by McSleepy » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:13 am

I have used my Breeze with 20cm of IPAP, even before I made some modifications (e.g., adding elastic straps). My machine at the time did not have data-recording capabilities, so I cannot vouch for the amount of leaks, but it worked for me. I am currently at 15cm with the same mask and the leaks are nearly non-existent, according to the data.
McSleepy

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Previous machine: ResMed S9 VPAP Auto 25 BiLevel. Mask: Breeze with dilator pillows. Software: ResScan ver. 5.1
ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto; Puritan-Bennett Breeze nasal pillow mask; healthy, active, middle-aged man; tall, athletic build; stomach sleeper; on CPAP since 2003; lives @ 5000 ft; surgically-corrected deviated septum and turbinates; regular nasal washes

Angelbyte

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by Angelbyte » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:12 am

I've tried the Breeze in the past. I couldn't get the stupid headgear to fit. I have a ridiculously small head and usually have to use safety pins and old knee his to make headgear fit. I think I threw the Breeze across the room after a couple of hours. Of course that was in my early days of CPAP use.

User avatar
avi123
Posts: 4509
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:39 pm
Location: NC

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by avi123 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:13 am

If its nazal only than this should take the pressure:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... dgear.html

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments:  S9 Autoset machine; Ruby chinstrap under the mask straps; ResScan 5.6
Last edited by avi123 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
see my recent set-up and Statistics:
http://i.imgur.com/TewT8G9.png
see my recent ResScan treatment results:
http://i.imgur.com/3oia0EY.png
http://i.imgur.com/QEjvlVY.png

User avatar
BleepingBeauty
Posts: 2454
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:30 pm
Location: Aridzona ;-)

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by BleepingBeauty » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:26 am

I use the Respcare Hybrid, and it seals well at my variable IPAP pressures (range is 10-20 cms). I like this mask because it's considered a FFM, but no part of it covers my nose. (I've tried several typical FFMs and had trouble with nose-bridge comfort and/or getting them to seal well.)

Disclaimer: I have to use a "fix" to keep the Hybrid's nasal pillows in place, like many others who use this mask. Small price to pay, IMO, for a good seal on a comfortable and effective mask.
Veni, vidi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around.

Dx 11/07: AHI 107, central apnea, Cheyne Stokes respiration, moderate-severe O2 desats. (Simple OSA would be too easy. ;))

PR S1 ASV 950, DreamWear mask, F&P 150 humidifier, O2 @ 2L.

McSleepy
Posts: 489
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:32 pm
Location: USA

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by McSleepy » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Angelbyte wrote:I've tried the Breeze in the past. I couldn't get the stupid headgear to fit. I have a ridiculously small head and usually have to use safety pins and old knee his to make headgear fit. I think I threw the Breeze across the room after a couple of hours. Of course that was in my early days of CPAP use.
Everyone hates their masks in the beginning. If you're willing to try it again (maybe you have kept it, and it didn't break from being thrown across the room), then you could try a few things to make it fit better. I find it to be highly adjustable - the slots on the front and back retract quite a bit. One thing to adjust is the steel bar - it can be bent (with a bit of effort) to fit the contour of your head. But the major one - and I couldn't use mine without it - is to add some straps. I made mine from elastic band (there is one kind for underwear that is quite soft). Once you have adjusted the slotting sliders (I sure don't know what to call them, but if you're interested, I can give more detail) so that the platform is right on top of your head, then you can run straps from the back to the front so that the nasal shell is kept firmly against your face (under the nose, above the lips). Then, you could add an (optional) strap from the top to your chin that will hold it in place.
I should mention, however, that I sleep exclusively on my stomach and nothing else would work for me; but in the rare instances when I lay on my back (as I briefly do in the morning when I am waking up) it can get uncomfortable because the hard part of the headgear is between my head and the pillow, and it can get bothersome if you had to lay in that position for a long time. If you sleep on your back there are other options.
McSleepy

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Previous machine: ResMed S9 VPAP Auto 25 BiLevel. Mask: Breeze with dilator pillows. Software: ResScan ver. 5.1
ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto; Puritan-Bennett Breeze nasal pillow mask; healthy, active, middle-aged man; tall, athletic build; stomach sleeper; on CPAP since 2003; lives @ 5000 ft; surgically-corrected deviated septum and turbinates; regular nasal washes

Janknitz
Posts: 8512
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:05 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by Janknitz » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:10 pm

My personal opinion is that nasal pillows are ideal for higher pressures because the higher the pressure the more they inflate and seal against the rim of the nostril.
What you need to know before you meet your DME http://tinyurl.com/2arffqx
Taming the Mirage Quattro http://tinyurl.com/2ft3lh8
Swift FX Fitting Guide http://tinyurl.com/22ur9ts
Don't Pay that Upcharge! http://tinyurl.com/2ck48rm

DaveMunson
Posts: 266
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:36 pm

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by DaveMunson » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:30 pm

The Activa LT is made for high pressure. Of the other masks I tried, it works the best.

_________________
MaskHumidifier
Additional Comments: SleepyHead, ResScan 3.16, ClimatelLne Tube, Hosehuggie in Plaid (it's so cool)

User avatar
BleepingBeauty
Posts: 2454
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:30 pm
Location: Aridzona ;-)

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by BleepingBeauty » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:07 am

lars4life wrote:Well, I'm your man. I can say that high pressure was my game. I had an Rx of bipap pressure of 25/21. That means that my
inhalation pressure was 25 and my exhalation was 21. 25 is max pressure! Does not get any higher than this.


On your machine. There are machines out there that go to 30cms.
I started with a nasal mask, a total joke. Then went to a Mirage Quattro FFM, also a joke, it leaked. Don't listen to people telling you to let the mask inflate, let it "float" and then gently adjust the strap. It's crap. I had to crank the strap with vice grips to get it to stop leaking.
The people who give advice have pressures of 5 to 10, total pussies... sissies!!
Guess what I found that worked? The Swift FX Nasal Pillows!!! Believe it or not. I don't care. But, they work great. Supposedly to be tested only to 20 pressure. But, I've since my first diagnosis three months ago have self titrated myself down to 18/14 pressure.
My Swift FX Nasal Pillows work great. No leaks, they are a dream! Hope you find what works for you!
You're walkin' on thin ice around here with comments like those, lars. And you were doing so well after such a rough start...
Veni, vidi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around.

Dx 11/07: AHI 107, central apnea, Cheyne Stokes respiration, moderate-severe O2 desats. (Simple OSA would be too easy. ;))

PR S1 ASV 950, DreamWear mask, F&P 150 humidifier, O2 @ 2L.

User avatar
Madalot
Posts: 4287
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:47 am

Re: Mask for high pressure

Post by Madalot » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:25 pm

BleepingBeauty wrote:
lars4life wrote:Well, I'm your man. I can say that high pressure was my game. I had an Rx of bipap pressure of 25/21. That means that my
inhalation pressure was 25 and my exhalation was 21. 25 is max pressure! Does not get any higher than this.


On your machine. There are machines out there that go to 30cms.
This is very true, BB. My machine, in basic bipap S/T and AVAPS Modes, my pressure can go as high as 36.

_________________
Mask: FlexiFit HC431 Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: HC150 Heated Humidifier With Hose, 2 Chambers and Stand
Additional Comments: Trilogy EVO. S/T AVAPS, IPAP 18-23, EPAP 10, BPM 7