Back pains in the morning

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Back pains in the morning

Post by Guest » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:34 am

Hey guys,

I've had my CPAP since last July. Man, has it ever been a blessing. I got great night sleeps, woke up refreshed, life was good.
Recently though, I've been waking up with a slightly sore back. it usually goes away after an hour or so, but it is disturbing my sleep, even more so than before I got the machine. Q quick Google online shows this is happens to others, and it's caused by being in the same position all night. How do you guys deal with this? Any tips and hints? I'm about to chuck my CPAP out the window I wake up frustrated in the morning!

FYI I'm getting my overgrown tonsils taken out and my uvula stapled to the top of my mouth at the end of March. Anybody go through this? Is that going to be the end of all my woes?

Thanks guys

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Re: Back pains in the morning

Post by kempo » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:42 am

How old is your mattress? Maybe time for a change.

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Re: Back pains in the morning

Post by Big S » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:03 pm

This happened to me early and often. My wife said I never slept so still as when I was under the mask. It seemed my arms and back were sore every day. She often checked to see if I was still alive (when wearing the mask and sometimes after I got up and before I had my first coffee). Pre-cpap, of course, I changed position every 30 seconds or so, and my death march could be observed whether I was in bed or not. A common place to watch this was on the couch. Now, with cpap, whenever I experience an arousal to the point of semiconsciousness, I change position. This helps me considerably. After six months, I know where the "sweet spot" positions, are and go to them. My body is calibrated to know where leaks and discomfort are eliminated (just kidding...a goal).

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Re: Back pains in the morning

Post by sydneybird » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:32 pm

Ditto on the mattress. I would suggest that you try a Teeter Hang Ups and hang by your feet for 5 minutes before bed and again after waking up. I hang at about a 145 degree angle (from vertical); haven't done full 180 inversion yet. Get it at Costco and return it after a few months if it doesn't do the trick. My bet is that you will want to keep it; I love mine. I got the bed thing figured out with my sleep number bed and memory foam topper, but my Teeter is helping with the sitting too long low back and upper back issues. Nothing like a good decompression of the spine. Good Luck.

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Re: Back pains in the morning

Post by Pugsy » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:47 pm

Ditto on the mattress evaluation.

Regarding the upcoming surgery.. The stapling part sounds awful..... Most people here just use the CPAP machine but maybe someone will chime in about it. You may not get much feed back on that part of the question.

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Tonsil and Uvula surgery

Post by sydneybird » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:37 pm

Although tonsil and adenoid removal might be helpful, stapling your uvula sounds ridiculous to me since you are getting relief using CPAP. Never heard of stapling, shortening maybe, but not stapling. Shortening has low success and high complication rates.

Below is a cut and paste of a post of mine:

Finally an article with a sleep doctor's analysis providing some realistic (in my opinion) effectiveness and side effects for:

1. losing weight - the sleep doc treats OSA first and weight loss will come naturally. OSA is the cause of weight gain is the thinking here (how refreshing).
2. UPPP surgery - uvulopalatopharyngoplasty - low success rate and high complication rate; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty
3. Pillar procedure - considered appropriate for people who have only snoring and no OSA on their sleep study
4. maxillo-mandibular advancement - jaw breaking and extension - most successful OSA surgery, and the one with the lowest complication rate, invasive, technically challenging and has a long recovery period. It involves bisecting the upper and lower jaw and extending them forward with titanium plates.
5. Provent - Nose valves http://www.proventtherapy.com Effectiveness rates are low, but it is relatively non-invasive and less cumbersome at first glance, it can lower the number of apneas per hour by 50%. Many patients find it so difficult to exhale that they cannot tolerate the therapy, not covered by insurance. (sydneybird comment - if stuffing your nose with a one way valve is supposed to put enough back-pressure in your throat to keep it open, then why don't people with very stuffy, but not completely clogged, noses stop snoring and have a lower AHI? Seems the opposite happens for me. The doc's patients simply start mouth breathing to overcome the valve back-pressure. )
6. manidibular advancing device oral appliance - She calls this a rich man’s bite guard. Excessive salivation, jaw pain, teeth shift and/or change in bite, we are now starting to see some long-term consequences.

The doc concludes in her first post (this is the second in a series) - None even comes close to CPAP in terms of effectiveness. If a person will wear the CPAP, then the effectiveness at eliminating apneas, maintaining good oxygen levels, and consolidating sleep approaches 100%. Importantly, there are few side effects, and none is serious. How often are doctors able to offer a treatment that works so well and has no risk of causing harm?

http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2011 ... es-a-cpap/

I would go to this sleep doctor in a heartbeat.