Humidifier booster.

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Humidifier booster.

Post by harikarishimari » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:14 pm

I spent my first 28 yrs in the tropics where the humidity is near 100% nearly 100% of the time, and rainstorms almost every day are usual. Now I live in the "high desert" western USA, and I think I am going dry out and blow away in the wind someday.

I have the REMstar and the heated humidifier. It is set on 5. I don't care about rainout, actually feels good. I am wondering if there is a humidifier I can put between the remstar humidifier and the hose that connect to mask? I have a house humidifier too, set on high. My roommate does not like that much humidity. Maybe I will get used to very dry air. At least my cpap humidifier will not bother the whole house. I want to at least breathe "normal" air when I'm sleep. Any suggtestion? Thank you.


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Post by MartiniLover » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:36 pm

How about another short hose, and a passover humidifer in the hoseline. Should add more


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Post by Goofproof » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:21 pm

A added passover unit would help a little, but for more humidity you need more heat, heat allows more water to be stored in the air. If they made a humidifier that used wicking type inserts to increase the surface area that would work, but it would be my luck to get one that has asbestos in the wicks, and foul my lungs even worse that they are.


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devilbiss?

Post by Ric » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:02 pm

harikarishimari,

(hey, that rhymes!),

You got me curious, i find DOZENS of such standalone humidifiers that meet your criteria. DeVilbiss 9100D, just to mention one. Many other brands. Probably thousands of places to buy them online. Kind of expensive too. I suppose you could put DOZENS of THOSE daisy-chained together to absolutely saturate the air you are breathing. Hope you don't drown.

Having said that, I'm not convinced even ONE more configured in-line will do you any good, or even be noticeable. Simply put, if you are having "rainout", the air you are breathing is already saturated, meaning it can't hold any more water in the form of vapor at that temperature. The only way it will hold more water it so make it warmer. But that won't necessarily make it feel any WETTER. Maybe another heated humidifier will do that up to a point. You probably want to stop WAAAAAAAAY short of 212 deg.F.

Your choice.

More likely you feel dry because the rest of you is dry, not your nasopharyngeotracheobronchioalviolar membranes. check those first. if THAT'S dry, maybe you're not drinking enough water.

I would CHEERFULLY send you every bit of humidity from where I live. But we don't have much either. LIKE it that way. I DO use a humidifier, but only because the extra volume of air from the APAP is slightly more than my nasopharyngeotracheobronchioalviolar membranes were used to. Otherwise, DRY is GOOD!

I think you will get used to it, give it a chance.

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Re: devilbiss?

Post by Prostitech » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:47 am

Ric wrote:nasopharyngeotracheobronchioalviolar membranes
now there's a 20 dollar word for you....

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Post by capt » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:11 am

You might try a heated humidifier that has a larger surface area than the one you are using. like the Devilbiss or Resmed Humidaire. Your equipment could set on top of the Devilbiss or Resmed unit and it looks like you could use it in tandem with your humidifier. You could call the experts at CPAP.COM to see if it is possible, and to make sure you get all the connections and parts you would need to do it..


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Post by NeurosurgeryNP » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:30 am

If you are getting rainout, like one poster already said, the air you are getting is totally saturated. One way to avoind this is by using the Aussie Heated Hose - I got mine a few months ago and would never think about going without it, even for a night. With this said, while using the heated hose, you can probably get away with using another heated humidifier inline and without rainout. I would go to cpap.com and take a look. The Fischer-Paykel seems to be a good tandem humidifier that can be used as a stand alone humidifier (not integrated into any unit).

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one humidifer only is enough

Post by harikarishimari » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:44 pm

I got a Devilbiss humidifer. I can not tell any diference. It is a nice one, but two humidifers are not better than one. I was in too much hurry. But now I am more happy with using a APAP. My friend help me adjust the pressures so it feels ok to breathe now. Just like breathing without the mask on. I use 5.5 but many times at night presure becomes 11 and sometimes 12. If i used only one pressure 10 like my doctor says, I would not sleep. What is the use. I would not use it. Now I feel very good.


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Post by dsm » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:10 pm

HariKari San

I have a HC100 and a HC150. I find that the HC100 can be turned up so high that it nearly sprays water in my face. The HC150 doesn't seem to have the same high setting and is more 'normal' (it has a feature called ambient tracking that adjusts as the temperature changes).

I don't know if the HC100 is sold any more but it gets my award for being able to humidify to very high levels.

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Im having the same problems

Post by sapphireskye » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:44 pm

In Colorado the air is so dry here. So along with my meds making my mouth dry, my being a mouth breather because of nasal probs, and already having an integrated humidifier...there realy is no much else I can think of doing. Except keeping something to drink by the bed.

Hope u find some relief

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