Robert Dawkins- Tolerate CPAP book?

[RDawkinsPhDMPH]

cflame1 ... I do.

SleepingUgly ... I understand.... like I said, it's not anything I won't tell someone for free, but I usually don't have the time for all of it... or I think I've already covered a topic but it was the previous person I said it to ... so it's a compilation of hours of thought that can save someone time getting started....

[SleepingUgly]

cflame1 ... I do.

SleepingUgly ... I understand.... like I said, it's not anything I won't tell someone for free, but I usually don't have the time for all of it... or I think I've already covered a topic but it was the previous person I said it to ... so it's a compilation of hours of thought that can save someone time getting started....

Do you sell it to your patients?

[RDawkinsPhDMPH]

I tell them about the website ... I tell them it doesn't say anything I won't tell them for free... and that most of what's in it regularly comes up in our monthly support groups ... some have bought it, some have not .... and I don't push it beyond that. But that is the group it was really written for.

[RDawkinsPhDMPH]

I tell them about the website ... I tell them it doesn't say anything I won't tell them for free... and that most of what's in it regularly comes up in our monthly support groups ... some have bought it, some have not .... and I don't push it beyond that. But that is the group it was really written for.

[Emilia]

I've been reading this thread, and I see both points of view regarding the book. First, I'm pretty new here (July), and certainly cannot speak to previous situations that might be similar, but I do think that I've seen enough newbies who ask the same questions over and over to know that for many, finding a concise, succinct e-book to answer their questions might be very helpful. It is clear that some folks are not sure how to use the forum well.... lack of tech skills prevent them from knowing how to use the search engine properly, how to PM or other tasks. Maybe having an e-book that opens up at a click will be helpful to them.

I've seen posts recommending other sleep books on here with links to the Amazon page where it can be purchased. I find those things very helpful, regardless of whether I choose to buy it or not. I viewed Dr. Dawkin's site and found it pretty basic. The way he has designed the book view is also basic..... Had I written an e-book, I would have used Lulu ( http://www.lulu.com/ )to publish and sell it, but that is my preference. I have not bought his book, mainly because I have found this forum a treasure trove of information and guidance. But, I am a tech manager and know how to use it to find what I need, quickly.

I think a mountain is being made of molehill, IMHO..... I respect that Dr. Dawkins didn't use the main forum as a marketing tool. I think that would have been a bit much, but PM's to those he felt could benefit from his expertise and then a link seems harmless to me. Folks on here are adults who can choose to click or not on that link.

As to the data issues.... I also believe patients are underserved by the system that seeks to keep them in the dark. I am lucky to have a sleep doc that took time to educate me about SA and is fully supportive of me using the software for my machine and tweaking things. Empowered, knowledgable patients are more likely to succeed and be compliant.

[roster]

This thread has quickly morphed from Tolerate CPAP book to Tolerate CPAP Book?

Hey true believers, if it helps any the author is Robert not Richard!

[SleepingUgly]

I tell them about the website ... I tell them it doesn't say anything I won't tell them for free... and that most of what's in it regularly comes up in our monthly support groups ... some have bought it, some have not .... and I don't push it beyond that. But that is the group it was really written for.

I don't know if that's unethical per se, but something about it feels "wrong" to me. If I were the doctor who had written it for my patients, I would give it rather than sell it to my patients.

[chunkyfrog]

I am sure that most of us realize that other expenses are involved in publishing a e-book, besides royalties.
Project Guttenberg had to work on donations and grants --a pile of money!
This is why you can read a thousand or more classics for free--utterly amazing!
Also, the e-book is not for your average technophobe. --not yet, anyway.
The format pretty much limits itself to folks with some tech-savvy.
Handing out hard copies might condemn the book to the same closet shelf as the bottom level machine.
I'm sure that is not Robert's intent.

[RDawkinsPhDMPH]

I understand, SleepingUgly....I try to be very careful about that .... that's why I will give them all the time they need in the office and all the information is available for free. When I get behind (usually after an insomnia patient) I always apologize to the next patient and tell them they have all the time they need. I just let them know it's there but that I'll also work with them one-on-one for free as long as they need. Some choose to get it.

I also spend time every month, in and out of our support group and for free, helping people who were tested in other area labs. This was a separate endeavor that took a some time to compile and a way for me to extend my reach.

[RDawkinsPhDMPH]

Thank you, Emilia.

[secret agent girl]

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[NotMuffy]

I would be interested in buying your book. Is there a link?

It's not for sale. Like I said, it's free:

Muffy's Guide To CPAP Compliance

[Laurie1041]

e-book review - How to Tolerate CPAP Therapy for your Sleep Apnea, by Robert Dawkins, PhD, MPH.

I admit I like a bit of drama every once in awhile and cpaptalk.com certainly serves up a nice tasty platter of it from time-to-time. It boggles the mind how discussions concerning CPAP, OSA, flow limitations, and mask interfaces can turn from clinical self-help to unhelpful and hurtful blows directed to another member. This week's juicy morsal revolves in part as to whether it is ethical and/or within the rules of this forum to endorse or attempt to sell a product, in this case, an e-book on this site.

Notwithstanding my opinions as to whether or not it is right or wrong to endorse one's e-book for sale on this forum, I decided to put my money where my mouth is and to purchase Dr. Dawkin's e-book for the purpose of evaluating its contents and substance. I would like to state that I have never had any communication of any nature with Dr. Dawkins.

The e-book is concise, organized, and easy to read. I wish I had read How to Tolerate CPAP Therapy for your Sleep Apnea back in October, 2010 when I diagnosed with Severe OSA and began APAP. It would have answered all the questions that most newbies have and few sleep doctors have time to answer. Dr. Dawkins comes across as an expert in the field of sleep disorders and his credentials and experience speak for themselves. What impressed me most about this e-book was that Dr. Dawkins does not appear to be giving lip-service to the importance of CPAP. His passion for helping patients learn ways in which to tolerate CPAP is evident. He offers hope that almost everyone can learn methods of learning to live with CPAP. Experienced CPAP forum members may learn something new that may help newbies. I recommend that any newly diagnosed forum member invest in themselves by purchasing the e-book. I highly recommend it. I only wish that it were more affordable or free.

Having said all of this, I have one concern which I feel has merit; it is my opinion as an RN and a patient, that knowledge concerning health promotion should be easy to access and should be free or on a donation basis to cover costs. Each and every health care practitioner has a duty and responsibility to give some of their time in order to provide service either clinically or educationally. I have no problems with professionals making money, but I do not feel that this forum is appropriate for someone attempting to sell a product. This e-book is very important and helpful to newbies and I ask Dr. Dawkins if he would consider "loaning" his e-book to those who struggle with CPAP. Laurie

[GumbyCT]

I understand, SleepingUgly....I try to be very careful about that .... that's why I will give them all the time they need in the office and all the information is available for free. When I get behind (usually after an insomnia patient) I always apologize to the next patient and tell them they have all the time they need. I just let them know it's there but that I'll also work with them one-on-one for free as long as they need. Some choose to get it.

I also spend time every month, in and out of our support group and for free, helping people who were tested in other area labs. This was a separate endeavor that took a some time to compile and a way for me to extend my reach.

May I ask where an OSA person could find you and your wonderful services? Or did I miss it somehow?

[NotMuffy]

As for knowledge base, again, interesting opinion.

OK there Bobby, why don't you get back to that

Hering-Breuer

comment so we can see what you're working with.