Hans Rudolph Oronasal Mask

[Guest]

Well I finally had the opportunity to try out the HR FF mask. I got measured for a mask yesterday and need the large, but the salesman only had a medium. As I was "just barely a large", he left me a medium to play with until he can send me a large in 2 or 3 weeks.

So my initial impression is based on a mask that is a bit too small for me. Still......

I am totally impressed with this mask. I couldn't actually get a feel for the construction and quality by looking at the pictures at the HR website. You really have to see this mask to understand it. The construction is ingenious and allows for a much tighter fit without discomfort than "other" FF masks I have had the pleasure of using. It is totally made out of silicon and has no hard shell whatsoever. The mask looks like it might last for years of normal use. Much easier to clean than the hardshell masks with cushions.

This mask is much easier to use for side sleeping than other FF masks I have tried. It has substantially less bulk and thus gets less in the way when you lay on your side. I am convinced, that if you get the right size the HR mask will also leak far less than other masks due to its unique construction. And it is far more comfortable for me and left less redness that other FF masks I have tried. There is also no forehead support to leave red marks, but due to the unique design of the mask, this is not a function that you will miss at all.

Of course, there is always the tried and true CPAP wisdom that no mask is going to work equally well for everyone, but in this case I think those who are going to be disappointed will be far and few between. Of course you need to get the right size. Otherwise it's cheating.

So that is my initial report. I am very impressed and I can't emphasize enough, that for those who MUST use a full face mask, they really should try one of these as it may make their lives much easier. And now the mask has just been re-issued in an updated form, which has handled some minor defects in the previous model. There is also a new headgear, which replaces the old one and this is good news as the old headgear was not very convenient to use. The new headgear is far better.

Hope this information is of use.

[dkeat]

Somehow didn't get logged in. The report on the HR mask was from me.

[Georgia Hosehead]

It's good to hear that you're pleased with your Hans Rudolph mask. The one I have was fitted using the calipers and it leaked horribly. With the terrible headgear, the leaks and the red marks on the face, I retired it to the shelf of unsuccessful masks. Hope yours works out better.

[Severeena]

David, Severeena here, I am so pleased that you like the mask and that you had good sucess with it even though it is not quite the correct size.

My husband is now going to be fitted tomorrow for his Hans Rudolph Full Face mask because he likes the quietness of mine. He is going out of pocket because the VA does not handle the HR and no Gel filled either.


Sharon My trade mark is the indigo color.

[dkeat]

David, Severeena here, I am so pleased that you like the mask and that you had good sucess with it even though it is not quite the correct size.

My husband is now going to be fitted tomorrow for his Hans Rudolph Full Face mask because he likes the quietness of mine. He is going out of pocket because the VA does not handle the HR and no Gel filled either.


Sharon My trade mark is the indigo color.

Hi Severeena,

Actually, that is something that I forgot to mention. When I first turned on the machine everything was so quiet I was unsure for some minutes whether the machine was actually on or not. Quite uncanny.

The other thing is, I wonder why some people seem to have had trouble with the HR mask. I know that no mask will work equally well for all people, but somehow this mask seems so flexible that it is hard for me to conceive that it would totally fail for some.

[Guest]

Guested again. Severeena here, I am wondering if they are getting sized correctly.

I was first put in a medium and I refused it because it was way to big. The rep was not happy with me when I told him to measure me. That is when I found out they never measure, they go by what they want you to have and forget the size.

I floored the rep at the DME this morning at my knowledge of the Hans Rudolph and how to use the caliper.

I could not believe it when he wanted to remeasure Tom for the Nasal only mask, when Tom wanted the full face mask. Yep the directions for the nasal is on the same caliper as you know. This idiot was really going to screw up until I told him that is how the measure for the nose only mask.

Geesh, I need to go into business and sell the HR.

I was furious, so now I see why people are not being fitted correctly for this mask.

Tom even told the guy I knew more than him about it.
Sharon

[dkeat]

Severeena

You really should cut a deal with HR and set up shop. You have the passion for it. And you've probably sold a few already with your persistent recommendations here at the forum.

If you get rich, I want a cut for encouraging you.

[ProfessorSleep]

I think I was one of her first customers! Severeena really sold me on the HR mask, and I must say she didn't steer me wrong. I agree totally with your assessment, dkeat, and find it less claustrophobic than I expected due to the softness of the mask. I still like a pillows setup best, but must say I won't mind using the HR on occasion. I like best how it sits lower on your nose - less pressure over the bridge.

[Severeena]

I am calling the HR people on Monday to talk to them about the size of Tom's mask and to make sure the DME orders the correct size for Tom.

I may ask them on Monday to tell them of the converts on the cpaptalk.com forum. I would love to do anything to get this mask out.

Are the DME's afraid to handle this mask?

[Newsgrouper]

Can someone tell me about the new headgear? How is it different from the old headgear?

[Sharon]

Severeena Being Guested Again.

The new head gear is the strap kind which is different from the cap type.

The cap type is comfortable as the strap.

I have a prototype of the new head gear.

I hope this helps.

Sharon

[dkeat]

I don't know what it is with HR. They have such an ingeneous mask design, but for some reason they haven't been able to create a really great and simple headgear. I have seen the new headgear and it is better than the old, which IMHO was catastrophic in its complexity. Still, it does not come up to the simplicity of the headgear that, say, the Ultra Mirage has. But it is moving in that direction. If you are going to buy an HR mask, make sure you get it delivered with the new headgear.

[inacpapfog]

Can someone tell me where to go to learn more about this new HR headgear and the ff mask. You've got me interested here!

[Severeena]

I can give you the web site of the Hans Rudolph Company.

http://www.rudolphkc.com, ask for information on the headgear and mask information.

Finding a DME that will even consider ordering this mask for you is very hard.

I will PM you with the rest.

[inacpapfog]

Severeena, must I go through a DME if I am going to pay out of pocket for the HR? Can I measure myself for this mask? From what you told us, I realize that the right size is crucial!