AHI VS Symptoms

wading thru the muck! · Post by **wading thru the muck!** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:25 pm

Mikesus wrote:Ainsi je devine que les moyens vous ne payent pas des impôts sur votre équipement libre?

Une fois un âne de chevaux toujours un âne de chevaux

SLPYHED · Post by **SLPYHED** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:48 pm

Pourquoi pas vous tous les deux juste fermés et sucer sur votre
tuyau jusqu'à ce que vous chute endormie.Vous êtes le plus ennuyant.
Kirkier

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:55 pm

On devrait toujours révéler leurs intérêts, particulièrement quand un lui est compensé. Et votre bouche fétide le prouve.

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sick and tired guest · Post by **sick and tired guest** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:07 pm

Have you missed something?

You've missed name calling, bickering, obsessive feuding, all in two languages.

I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE OBSESSING OVER NOTHING WHEN I'VE GOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE OBSESSING ABOUT --- LIKE MY APNEA.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:11 pm

sick and tired guest wrote:Have you missed something?

You've missed name calling, bickering, obsessive feuding, all in two languages.

I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE OBSESSING OVER NOTHING WHEN I'VE GOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE OBSESSING ABOUT --- LIKE MY APNEA.

LOL...I was looking to see if I accidentally changed the language the site is displayed in...oh, my God, I'm laughing so hard!!!

And as for the pig Latin, it's not that easy to read as it is to say.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:58 pm

I'd like to know what this all has to do with AHI and Symptoms.

I know, a symptom of low AHI must be a sudden affinity for another language. Or, a lack of oxygen is affecting the brain.

You know, you really ought not go around using a horse's butt name in vain. I mean, horses are people too. Oh, wait, ..... I must have forgotten to use my cpap machine last nite.

Mikesus · Post by **Mikesus** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:22 pm

Thats cuz the thread was hijacked.

Back to the original topic:

Here is a study that found that:

We found no significant relations between severity of psychological symptoms and Apnea and Hypopnea Index (AHI) or oxygen saturation in SAHS patients.

Another Study

And another specific to arousals and EDS

CLINICAL IMPLICATIONS: The absence of a clear relationship between daytime sleepiness, sleep fragmentation and respiratory arousals suggest that the underlying mechanisms for daytime sleepiness in patients with obstructive sleep apnea is likely to be complex and multifactorial and needs further study.

Link to Study

So, again, the point of the post was this.

If you have an AHI below 5, and you are still feeling symptoms of OSA, you should look at other factors that could be causing the symptoms versus searching for the elusive AHI of zero on your machine/software.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:02 am

Mikesus wrote:So, again, the point of the post was this.

If you have an AHI below 5, and you are still feeling symptoms of OSA, you should look at other factors that could be causing the symptoms versus searching for the elusive AHI of zero on your machine/software.

Which, once again, opens the mind to wonder why I was put on CPAP in the first place. Like I always say, "Oh, well..." guess it's water under the bridge (or air under the nose).

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:00 am

Sleepless on LI wrote: Which, once again, opens the mind to wonder why I was put on CPAP in the first place.

AGAIN??
and again and again
Give it up woman!
We heard you!
How many times can you SAY you woefully ain't got sleep apnea??

I'm sorry. I'm rude. I never do this. But it's really hard to relate to that.
You're milking people for sympathy for a problem apnea people envy -- being misdiagnosed and finding out there's no apnea problem. The woe-is-me thing may get you some vocal sympathy, but there are a lot of people here who aren't rude like me who are tired of hearing about it.
Just go back or continue to do what you do best, listen and help others. OK?

(I'm going straight to hell for saying all of the above, but you're giving me a headache when what I want is information about sleep apnea.)

yardbird · Post by **yardbird** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:21 am

hmmm... a masked guest. How surprising.

For the record, I don't think anything is being milked. I think it absolutely valid to be wondering about what it was that got you diagnosed with OSA to begin with. The fact that you're off the hose... does it mean you aren't having apneic events any more? Or simply that they're so rare you don't need to be on a machine? I think it's absolutely valid to wonder out loud several times. At least until you are satisfied that you have an answer that resonates with you. That you can accept and live with. The experience of getting OFF the hose is no less valid than the experience of getting ON the hose. And it's all helpful information.

Just my 2 cents... now I'm broke.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:23 am

Thanks, Yardbird. I'll lend you a couple of pennies, when I get through feeling sorry for myself (LOL). I have learned to ignore guests that are cranky (nice understatement, eh?). I have a feeling I know who it is anyway.

In answer to your questions, I do have episodes but they are under the 5 mark without CPAP. The thing is, they were, too, when they diagnosed me and put me on the hose. That is the confusing part. I may never have an answer that sits well with me, I guess. Such is life (many unanswered questions).