Arghhh! Why can't new Windows be more backwards compatible?

[WilsonVilleUSA]

I recently upgraded all computers in the house to Windows 7. Of course that means CPAP software needs to be reinstalled. So, I install my ver 1.2 Sleep Therapy for my Sandman Auto and I get an error that Win 7 REQUIRES "Digitally Signed" drivers and it will not work.

Years ago I made the switch from XP to Vista and EncorePro seized. Took quite awhile to fix that. Anyone have any luck or info on making Seep Therapy software work with Windows 7?


Geez, maybe I should just find an old Laptop running XP and dedicate it to the CPAP...

[GumbyCT]

Sometimes the latest isn't always the greatest. Doing one PC to try all of your applications is the best approach IF you MUST fix things that ain't broke.

Life is a learning experience

[Goofproof]

If we keep doing things the same way they were done before, progress well be held back. Every now and again, the slate needs to be wiped clean, so new tech and thing can make the maxium use of what's is out there now to work with.

Vista was a bad idea put into place, unless the idea was to create a O.S. so bad, the the next (Win 7) would appear to be much better than XP or Vista. All the fools that had to buy Vista should be mailed a "FREE" install of Win 7 ULT, Bill owes you one for not sueing.

My advise is to get a fast computer with Win 7 ULT installed, then install VMware, and XP Pro, and any other O.S. you need to use. Then you will have what you need to run the old and new. I have mine set up to run Win 7 ULT, XP Pro, and Win 98 w/Dos, like I said ready for anything. Jim

[unadog]

You may be able to run the old device drivers using Windows XP mode, depending on version.

Windows 7 is a nice OS. Fast and solid. Good luck!

I posted this elsewhere in response to a similar question. Should help - no real time to edit. Have to try to sleep:

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In general, will 32 bit software also run under a 64 bit OS?

Yes. A little more complicated for device drivers, but also "yes"


More info at Infoworld

http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/32-b ... 5?page=0,2

Quotes:

Q. Can I run 32-bit Windows applications under 64-bit Windows 7?
A. Yes. Virtually any 32-bit Windows application that is supported on Windows XP can run unmodified under 64-bit Windows. This is made possible by a technology known informally as "Win32 on Win64" (WOW for short), which translates 32-bit API calls from a legacy Win32 executable into 64-bit API calls that can be serviced by the native subsystems of 64-bit Windows 7. The net result is that 32-bit applications run seamlessly on 64-bit Windows and, thanks to optimizations in current generation Intel and AMD CPUs, at or near full speed. [/


Q. Can I use a 32-bit device driver under 64-bit Windows 7?
A. No...... However, while 32-bit drivers are not directly supported in 64-bit Windows 7, 64-bit Windows 7 users can install 32-bit drivers in Windows XP Mode and use USB-based printers and other USB-based legacy devices with the Windows XP virtual machine

Q. What exactly is Windows XP Mode, and how do I get it?
A. The simple answer is that Windows XP Mode is a virtual machine containing Windows XP SP3 that runs under Windows Virtual PC 7. It is available as a free download to users of Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions.

[bearded_two]

That is why I haven't upgraded the Windows partition on my new-ish 10" netbook from XP to Win 7. I upgraded the 160GB drive to 500GB and the re-image disk created two 250GB partitions, just perfect for dual booting. So, I still have a computer that will run older software packages and it is very portable. I love my netbook for traveling because it is very light and I can tether it to my cell phone with bluetooth and get reliable wireless connectivity. The funny thing is that I almost never boot the Windows partition on my netbook, I always boot it into Linux.

[JohnBFisher]

... If we keep doing things the same way they were done before, progress well be held back. ...

Not really. A good architecture - rather than a slap dash job - avoids most of the problems you see with Windows.

But that requires ... building and living with (is the paramedic ready?) standards!

Better yet, instead of Win 7 as the host OS, go to a Linux Kernel and then VMware on top of it. Put what ever version of Windows / Linux you need on top of that. Much easier. Much cleaner. Windows is a hog and often does not add a lot in the mix.

[briank]

I was able to get Sandman Therapy 1.4 to access my Sandman Info under 64-bit Windows 7 today.

The application itself works fine under Windows 7, but the supplied drivers don't (though they will work in Windows XP Mode if you attach the ISIS USB device in the virtual PC running XP).

With a bunch more detective work and digging, I was able to find drivers for Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit). They are included within the USBXpress development kit here:

http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/Pages/USBXpress.aspx

Download the Windows 2000/XP/Server2003/Vista/Win7 (v3.2.2) USBXpress Development Kit and open it in Windows Explorer. Run the USBXpress_Install. At the end of the installation, check the "Launch the USBXpress Driver Installer" box before clicking Finish. Specify or make a note of where the installer installs the drivers.

Go to the Device Manager portion of Computer Management under the Control Panel's Administrative Tools (AKA "Manage" from the right-click menu for "My Computer").

Look for the ISIS or Sandman CPAP device under the Universal Serial Bus controllers and right click on it to Update Driver. Select the driver manually (you will specify the location) and use the "Have Disk" option to browse to the USBXpress driver directory (the level containing the SiUSBXp.inf file).

Once the updated driver is in place, you should be able to connect the USB cable and see your xPAP from within Sandman Therapy.

I hope that helps you breathe easier!

[WilsonVilleUSA]

Thanks!

This worked perfectly on Version 1.2, it is all good now and don't have to mess with running a Virtual machine.

I was able to get Sandman Therapy 1.4 to access my Sandman Info under 64-bit Windows 7 today.

The application itself works fine under Windows 7, but the supplied drivers don't (though they will work in Windows XP Mode if you attach the ISIS USB device in the virtual PC running XP).

With a bunch more detective work and digging, I was able to find drivers for Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit). They are included within the USBXpress development kit here:

http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/Pages/USBXpress.aspx

Download the Windows 2000/XP/Server2003/Vista/Win7 (v3.2.2) USBXpress Development Kit and open it in Windows Explorer. Run the USBXpress_Install. At the end of the installation, check the "Launch the USBXpress Driver Installer" box before clicking Finish. Specify or make a note of where the installer installs the drivers.

Go to the Device Manager portion of Computer Management under the Control Panel's Administrative Tools (AKA "Manage" from the right-click menu for "My Computer").

Look for the ISIS or Sandman CPAP device under the Universal Serial Bus controllers and right click on it to Update Driver. Select the driver manually (you will specify the location) and use the "Have Disk" option to browse to the USBXpress driver directory (the level containing the SiUSBXp.inf file).

Once the updated driver is in place, you should be able to connect the USB cable and see your xPAP from within Sandman Therapy.

I hope that helps you breathe easier!

[jules]

My advise is to get a fast computer with Win 7 ULT installed, then install VMware, and XP Pro, and any other O.S. you need to use. Then you will have what you need to run the old and new. I have mine set up to run Win 7 ULT, XP Pro, and Win 98 w/Dos, like I said ready for anything. Jim

Ah, I know now where to scream for help tomorrow when the new CPU comes. Gumby told me I was on my own. It is supposed to have Windows 7 Ultimate installed.

[drubin007]

anyone on here using the Performance Maximisizer Software (Fisher and Paykel) under a 64 bit version of Windows 7?

I was able to get the software to install fine and I can make the configuration changes ok, however if I go to preview a report the graphs do not display. I forget the actual error message but the images do not come up at all.

according to my "sources" at F&P it should work fine as it is, simply a rights issue. To test that theory I gave the folder and all subfolders full access (everyone - full) but same issue.

I know I am in the minority here with my equipment, but figured I would toss it out there.

Not a deal breaker for me, I do not check my stats as often as I should, but would like to see everything
the way it was intended.