Higher pressure and dry mouth

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Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by iphonehome » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:01 am

Doc has raised my air pressure to 10-15 mm. Now, I wake up twice a night with very dry mouth despite a chin strap and double surgical taped mouth. What should I do? Ongoing terrible night's sleep.

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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by KatieW » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:16 am

I have dry mouth too, even though my leak rate is zero. I found that when I took Claritin, it was worse. And that Omega 3 supplements, and staying well-hydrated helped. I am now using Biotene Dry Mouth Wash, and that seems to help. If I get up during the night, I do another swish.

I read somewhere that dry mouth can be caused by the tongue blocking the humidified air from the mouth, rather than through mouth leaks, but haven't been able to find that source again.

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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by Wulfman » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:16 pm

iphonehome wrote:Doc has raised my air pressure to 10-15 mm. Now, I wake up twice a night with very dry mouth despite a chin strap and double surgical taped mouth. What should I do? Ongoing terrible night's sleep.
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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by roster » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:27 pm

What was your pressure before and did you have dry mouth then?

Is your current pressure set at range of 10 minimum and 15 max?
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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by harry33 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:18 pm

higher pressures often evaporate the saliva, a humidifier is the answer if it bothers you
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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by iphonehome » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:50 am

harry33 wrote:higher pressures often evaporate the saliva, a humidifier is the answer if it bothers you
My CPAP comes with an integrated heated humidifier which I have turned up all the way. The CPAP is set for 10 mm minimum and 15 max. Part of the problem may be placement of the machine fairly close to the heat vent for the room. I will add a room humidifier.

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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by Marietjie » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:57 am

iphonehome wrote:with very dry mouth
KatieW wrote:I have dry mouth too,
KatieW wrote: tongue blocking the humidified air from the mouth
Do you sleep on your back? That is another cause of dry mouth.
Iphonehome - try decreasing the heat bit for bit and see how it goes.
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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by LinkC » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:00 am

Your humidifier set on High should more than compensate for any reasonable room humidity (or lack).

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Post by DavidMB » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:17 am

After about 2 weeks, I am getting pretty acclimated to using the Bipap 19/15 ... last night was the best so far, but dry mouth is a problem. The humidifier does not seem to be providing as much humidity as I need. I have been running it on setting of 5, despite warning of the little lady that that highest setting would probably leave me with a wet mouth & wet pockets in the hose. It apparently is humidifying to some degree, but only evidenced over a 6 hour period by depleting the water level in the reservoir from full to ~1/4th level at "wake-up" time. I awakened several times briefly during the night feeling a dry caked mouth & throat, and it took a while this morning to rehydrate ... still felling a slight residual dryness after 4 or so hours.

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Post by roster » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:04 pm

DavidMB wrote:After about 2 weeks, I am getting pretty acclimated to using the Bipap 19/15 ... last night was the best so far, but dry mouth is a problem. The humidifier does not seem to be providing as much humidity as I need. I have been running it on setting of 5, despite warning of the little lady that that highest setting would probably leave me with a wet mouth & wet pockets in the hose. It apparently is humidifying to some degree, but only evidenced over a 6 hour period by depleting the water level in the reservoir from full to ~1/4th level at "wake-up" time. I awakened several times briefly during the night feeling a dry caked mouth & throat, and it took a while this morning to rehydrate ... still felling a slight residual dryness after 4 or so hours.
Are you using a full face mask (Covers nose and mouth) or just a nasal mask?
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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by BigNortherner » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:43 am

I wonder if taping the mouth shut is wise. If your nose gets blocked how will you breath?

Certainly you should be using as much humidification as you can (i.e. up to the point where you get condensation in the hose that causes noise or is felt at the interface – you’ll probably have to adjust humifier heating level with atmospheric humidity, unless you get one of the fancier machines that claims to adjust automatically).

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Re: Higher pressure and dry mouth

Post by BigNortherner » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:34 pm

The particular user’s experience is odd and interesting.

One thing to make sure of is that nasal passages are clear – sinus drip tends to clog them (even with good sinus health I find some congestion in the morning, which IIRC mouth breathing also leads to).

Note that a nasal interface shifting out of position and blocking nostril(s) as the ComfortCurve is prone to do will also push mouth breathing.

Also, for conventional nose mask I recommend getting a wider size than you may think you need.