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Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by dsm » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:16 pm

Thanks to a bit of detective work by nghy I now have the Bipap Auto SV Advanced provider manual
This link lists that plus some other manuals I managed to obtain (such as the service manual).

Enjoy

DSM

http://www.internetage.ws/cpapdata/manu ... to_sv_adv/

PS - if you want the service manual grab ir quick as I will be delisting it within 1 day - D
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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by dsm » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:46 pm

While digging up some other info I found this which shows a new style Bipap AVAPS machine. This one is new to me & looks a very neat package. The previous AVAPS was a feature of the older bigger Synchrony machine.

DSM

http://bipapavaps.respironics.com/PDF/B ... ochure.pdf

Set of docs for this machine ...
http://www.internetage.ws/cpapdata/manuals/bipap_avaps/

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by JohnBFisher » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:01 pm

Thanks gents for the detective work. It will definitely help others.

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by timbalionguy » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:37 pm

Thanks, DSM!
Lions can and do snore....

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by Banned » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:54 pm

dsm wrote:While digging up some other info I found this which shows a new style Bipap AVAPS machine. Image
The new PR System One ASV will also look like this. We will need the Provider Manual for for the PR1 ASV also.

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BiPAP Auto SV: EPAP 9, IPAP Min 14, IPAP Max 25, BPM 10, Ti 2sec, RT 2 (Travel Machine)
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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by dsm » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:20 pm

Banned,

That will be interesting. If ASV was able to be boxed in that PR 1 package, then the blowers in use are clearly a big step forward.
The avaps doesn't require fast pressure responses like the ASVs do.

My educated guess is that ASV will continue to use the fan/air valve design for some time. But, I could be wrong.

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by ozij » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:03 am

Thank you, dsm.

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by Banned » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:47 pm

dsm wrote: If ASV was able to be boxed in that PR 1 package, then the blowers in use are clearly a big step forward.
The avaps doesn't require fast pressure responses like the ASVs do.
PR1 BiPAP AVAPS has a Max Pressure of 25. I imagine the PR1 BiPAP ASV will be governed in that regard, also.

The question being for the PR1 ASV, will it have variable EPAP as in the Advanced?

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by unadog » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:06 pm

Banned wrote:

The question being for the PR1 ASV, will it have variable EPAP as in the Advanced?
Is there anything concrete along these lines coming from Respironics or ResMed? PR1 or S9? Or just speculation that they will be here - eventually?

I hope to get an ASV script next week, after my ASV titration on Tuesday. If waiting 2-3 months woukd get me into a newer model, I could buy a used copy of thye existing one one out-of-pocket, then have the insurnace pay for the newer one later. (My insurance pays 100%.) I would then keep the used one as a backup, or resell it.

No way I want to pay for a new PR1/S9 model out of pocket when it first hits the market!

I think, though, this is just general "back chatter"; nothing close enough to help me yet? Just like computers - always chasing that next model ...

Thanks!
Michael
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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by Banned » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:23 pm

unadog wrote:
Is there anything concrete along these lines coming from Respironics or ResMed? PR1 or S9? Or just speculation that they will be here - eventually?
Nothing concrete about a ResMed S9 ASV.
unadog wrote: I hope to get an ASV script next week, after my ASV titration on Tuesday. If waiting 2-3 months woukd get me into a newer model, I could buy a used copy of thye existing one one out-of-pocket, then have the insurnace pay for the newer one later. (My insurance pays 100%.) I would then keep the used one as a backup, or resell it.
PR1 BiPAP AVAPS was released 2 weeks ago. Waiting 2-3 months will get you a PR1 BiPAP ASV.
unadog wrote: No way I want to pay for a new PR1/S9 model out of pocket when it first hits the market!
Why not? Just like computers?
unadog wrote:I think, though, this is just general "back chatter"; nothing close enough to help me yet? Just like computers - always chasing that next model ...

General "back chatter", but close enough to help you.
Yes, always chasing that next model.
Hurray for a traveling ASV.
Way to go PR!

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BiPAP Auto SV: EPAP 9, IPAP Min 14, IPAP Max 25, BPM 10, Ti 2sec, RT 2 (Travel Machine)
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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by unadog » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:19 pm

Banned wrote:
unadog wrote: No way I want to pay for a new PR1/S9 model out of pocket when it first hits the market!
Why not? Just like computers?
Yeah. High demand, top price, no discounts. No used units.

My insurance will pay the same either way - for a Bipaip Auto SV now, or a PR1 SV then. And I know I am going to buy a PR1 within a year if they don't buy it for me ...

Banned wrote: PR1 BiPAP AVAPS was released 2 weeks ago. Waiting 2-3 months will get you a PR1 BiPAP ASV.
......
General "back chatter", but close enough to help you.
Yes, always chasing that next model.
Hurray for a traveling ASV.
Way to go PR!
Cool, thanks very much!

I may wait if I can find a reasonably priced Bipap Auto SV used! Maybe I will switch DMEs, that might require a coup[le of months for them to straighten out ....

I found a Bipap Auto SV yesterday on Craigslist. But as usual, I can't get the person to respond to an e-mail when they know I am out of state. They are all afraid of scams apparently ..... Anyone want to make $100?

How long would it be worth while to try to get by on a Bipap S/T while waiting for a new PR1 SV? Is the treatment close enough (assuming Complex, so treating centrals), or would I be giving up too much without the SV?

I am desperate to reduce my cognition, memory, and pain problems! I have a hard time even going to the food store. Spend a good part of the day confused. I am also hoping a fair amount of my foot neuropathy is related to hypoxia. If not I am screwed still!

Thanks again! Wish me luck ....

Best,
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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by ecocyber » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:52 pm

Thank you DSM and nghy. I have been trying to get my hands on this provider manual since Feb 2nd when my DME refused to give me the one packaged with my brand new BiPAPautoSV Advanced......... that my insurance was

BUYING FOR ME.


This distrust of the patient has got to end. After all, we are supposed to be part of a team which includes our sleep specialists and the DME company. The insurance companies are overpaying for our equipment since since the policy holder is not getting everything that the insurance company is paying for. Nice of you to share the link with everyone.

Best regards to you and all my fellow seekers of a normal night's sleep.


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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by ecocyber » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:06 pm

Incidentally, the reason my avatar is the image of a very crazed Jack Nicholson in the Shining, is because that is the way I feel most mornings after another bad night's sleep. Of course I am exaggerating, but you get the point.

If and when I ever get to the stage where I am getting a normal night's sleep....... on a regular basis, and I feel like my old self again, you will see my true image instead......that of a normally very gentle soul.

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by unadog » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:10 pm

ecocyber wrote:Incidentally, the reason my avatar is the image of a very crazed Jack Nicholson in the Shining, is because that is the way I feel most mornings after another bad night's sleep.
Well, at least your energy levels are up!

I mostly feel like a mushrrom that has been run over by a steam roller ....

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Re: Bipap Auto SV Advanced

Post by Banned » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:51 pm

unadog wrote:How long would it be worth while to try to get by on a Bipap S/T while waiting for a new PR1 SV?
2-3 Months
unadog wrote:Is the treatment close enough (assuming Complex, so treating centrals),
Close, but no cigar
unadog wrote:or would I be giving up too much without the SV?
just the cigar.
unadog wrote:I am desperate to reduce my cognition, memory, and pain problems! I have a hard time even going to the food store. Spend a good part of the day confused.
WOW, unadog, with those complaints you definitely need a BiPAP SV.
Can you hold out for a PR1 ASV?
or do you want to get the BiPAP Auto SV, now?

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AVAPS: PC AVAPS, EPAP 15, IPAP Min 19, IPAP Max 25, Vt 520ml, BPM 10, Ti 1.8sec, RT 2 (Garage)
BiPAP Auto SV: EPAP 9, IPAP Min 14, IPAP Max 25, BPM 10, Ti 2sec, RT 2 (Travel Machine)
VPAP Adapt SV: EEP 10.4, Min PS 4.4 (Every Day)
Mask: Quattro