Respironics RemStar AUTO wCFLEX 2005 disassembled ...

[WAFlowers]

I always thought there was a genie inside. There go my illusions.

And I thought it contained Maxwell's Demons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon).

[BP]

Doug, check in the manual and see if there is any way to format the card. Possibly via the unit itself, or via the software via the card reader. Maybe the card became corrupt somehow, and needs to be formatted/reset.

-BP

[dkeat]

I always thought there was a genie inside. There go my illusions.

And I thought it contained Maxwell's Demons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon).

Hi Bill

Yes, I suppose a demon better describes the type of being living in my machine. And it's temperature and mine never vary greatly.

[dsm]

Doug, check in the manual and see if there is any way to format the card. Possibly via the unit itself, or via the software via the card reader. Maybe the card became corrupt somehow, and needs to be formatted/reset.

-BP

Tks for the suggestion but Mayo Clinic kept sending me cards to try - but 1st was the new one that came with the unit - next 3 were cards that had been used as I asked for ones they knew worked.

I doubt here is a thing I can do about this.

Local agent will have no time for me seing I imported.

Cheers

DSM

[SickAndTired]

Unfortunately it doesn't help me solve why my RemStar doesn't appear to write to them.

ummm, this may be a dumb question, but is there any chance that the problem is on the "read" side of the equation instead of the "write" side?

Has anyone tried to read the cards from your machine besides the people running the study you were part of?

There has to be either faulty equipment or "user error" on one side or the other. Sounds like you've ruled out "user error" on your/write side, so either your equipment is faulty... their equipment is faulty... or they are trying to read the card incorrectly...

all else fails, send a spare card to someone with a reader on the forum and see if they can read it... send me a pm if you like...

And I thought it contained Maxwell's Demons.

Thanks for that link! That made for an interesting read... I knew I should have tried harder to stay awake during Physics I back in college, but it was just scheduled way too early! <grin>

[dsm]

ummm, this may be a dumb question, but is there any chance that the problem is on the "read" side of the equation instead of the "write" side?

Has anyone tried to read the cards from your machine besides the people running the study you were part of?

There has to be either faulty equipment or "user error" on one side or the other. Sounds like you've ruled out "user error" on your/write side, so either your equipment is faulty... their equipment is faulty... or they are trying to read the card incorrectly...

all else fails, send a spare card to someone with a reader on the forum and see if they can read it... send me a pm if you like...

All questions are fair - I didn't consider them to have a read problem because the study consisted of reading the cards from 50 RemStars.

(as an aside) In a much earlier post I said I thought there were 20 people participating per team but my sleep clinic lass put me right - 100 folk divided into two lots of 50 - one group given two two-hour introductions to xPAP & the other team of 50 left to fend for them selves. The 1st team were all given loan CPAP RemStars (cept me as I bought my own new AUTO) and it was only my machine that the cards kept showing up as blank.

PS. in the study 48% of the no intro group dropped out of xPAP therapy vs 8% of the 50 who were given the group intro education.

I will eventually get round to playing with the card reading but am not using the RemStar machine just at the moment as am trying an F&P221LE (then some others).

Thanks for the offer of help - appreciated.

Cheers DSM

PPS I also intended fessing up that my ramble about the datacard and which way it sits in the card cage (see photo 4) was totally off beam. One further inspection of the cardcage proved that photo 4 wasn't right - I had forgotten that the motherboard as shown in the pic, was upside down to how it sits in the RemStar so although that photo shows the card inserted pic side up in the photo, the motherboard is upside down to its normal position in the machine so that means the datacard should be white side up in pic 4
My only mitigation for my stupidity on that is that I picked it up 1st & thus got to call myself stupid before anyone else could (that is *NOT* an invitation )

[rested gal]

100 folk divided into two lots of 50 - one group given two two-hour introductions to xPAP & the other team of 50 left to fend for them selves.

That sounds like a very interesting experiment, dsm. I hope you'll post the outcome after all the teams have finished testing every machine that's going to be tested.

Of course, after the "fend for yourself" phase is finished on the very first round of machines, surely the "fend-ers" will be better able to figure out how to do things on the second round of machines, and more so on the next round, etc.

The first machines they use will be at a bit of a disadvantage, won't they, if the "fend for yourself'ers" are using cpap for the first time? Or is everyone involved a cpap user already? Is this experiment mainly to see what machines are easier to use, with and without instruction?

When you first wrote about a team of people trying various machines, I thought it was just an informal group swapping machines around. This sounds intriguing. Please let us know the results when it's all over and done.

[Guest]

100 folk divided into two lots of 50 - one group given two two-hour introductions to xPAP & the other team of 50 left to fend for them selves.

That sounds like a very interesting experiment, dsm. I hope you'll post the outcome after all the teams have finished testing every machine that's going to be tested.

Of course, after the "fend for yourself" phase is finished on the very first round of machines, surely the "fend-ers" will be better able to figure out how to do things on the second round of machines, and more so on the next round, etc.

The first machines they use will be at a bit of a disadvantage, won't they, if the "fend for yourself'ers" are using cpap for the first time? Or is everyone involved a cpap user already? Is this experiment mainly to see what machines are easier to use, with and without instruction?

When you first wrote about a team of people trying various machines, I thought it was just an informal group swapping machines around. This sounds intriguing. Please let us know the results when it's all over and done.

RG,

Sorry if I have created confusion re the Mayo Clinic study. That is unrelated to my team of lab rats (3 of us) testing various machines.

The clinic study was for just 1 month (june), the 1st team were put together from people willing to volunteer to partake in an education program & this group were loaned RemStars (not AUTOs).

The 2nd 'group' were really just 50 names chosen from those diagnosed with SA/OSA & who actually began some therapy. This 2nd team were left to select their own xPAP from the recommended set held at the sleep clinic + literature provided in folders by xPAP suppliers.

The purpose of the study was to see if there was a big difference in people staying with xPAP if they were given introductions and their spouses were invited to participate. So 1st team went through this program, 2nd team didn't.

When I 1st mentioned the results of the study (about 4 weeks ago) I mistakenly said it was only 2 teams of 20 - we didn't all meet at the same time for the education.

Cheers

DSM