system one auto cpap

[tiger]

Would the worthy members of this forum give their opinion as to what is the distinugishing feature between the newly introduced Respironics System One Auto Cpap and its peers, particularly M series Auto C Pap with A flex.

[Doze]

Sadly, the distinguishing feature of the PR-Series is that no patient-accessible software is currently available for detailed review of the therapy data. That makes it a "non-starter" for most folks.
For the majority of forum members likely to state an opinion, that will be it. And I concur.
A machine alone is not a complete therapy system, and so far that's all they've released (to patients) for that product line.

If you'd like more details on PR System One Auto regardless though, you might check my post history - that system is most of what I've been posting about. Watchout for all the posts about software though; those would be tedious for your query. So to help you out, I'll point you directly to a review I posted and got some kudos for: viewtopic/t47930/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47 ... 81#p427181

Since posting that review, I've switched back to CPAP and tried C-Flex+ now, which feels just like A-Flex to me, exactly as the documentation claimed.

[packer]

Look for the thread- "resmed vs resperonics- at my house"

I have used aflex for 3 years- switched to PR one- therapy as good or better
it is the quietest out there- big deal for me
humidifier is best of not raining

issue with the data- my guess is that it gets solved- read threads on board about software- people are working on it already
packer

[tiger]

Doze is absolutely right. To compare the merits of M series Auto cpap machine and System one machine, one must find out, whether System one is giving a better ahi compared to m series. However, that cannot be done, as the software is not available. Is there any other way to judge the performance of system one, without the software. Actually I want to buy system one in the hope, that it would be a step forward towards technical excellence being later in time, as compared to m series auto which i am presently using. However, if there is no significant advantage in therapy, i would be reluctant to divorce my old friend-the m series auto cpap. so, friends, do you think in the present scenario (without software) that therapywise system one is better than its peers?

[packer]

what I found was that the aflex- resmed autoset II and the pr one all did a great job

I confirmed this by using my oximeter- all did a great job- not enough difference to matter

so if they all do a good job- go for the creature comforts- PR wins- resmed 2nd and aflex a worthy 3rd [ just a little noisier]

[ I get data from the aflex but after a years frankly dont check it more than one or twice a month-
and you do get AHI from the pr one as it is without software- if you want nightly reset it everyday- pretty easy]

somehow this software deal has gotten way bigger than it is in my opinion- and I am guy who has encore pro- card reader etc

in my opinion all these machines give good therapy- getting a mask you like- not having rainout- noise bothering spouse-
these other issues are the big deal with cpap therapy- I think regular use and good results are the key- again- just my opinion-
packer

[riveredge1]

somehow this software deal has gotten way bigger than it is in my opinion- and I am guy who has encore pro- card reader etc

I am bugging the board about info on the software due to the fact i live in a tiny town in the mountains and sleep lab is --well--should be called a night of terror and follow up is -----well--that is why i want to do my own--i don't know what is going on at night when i am sleeping--don't have someone to let me know those things and the cats out side the window wont tell---i am new to this and just want to know like some inquiring minds--hope folks keep following this topic in hopes of knowing IF or WHEN software is coming---

[Gerryk]

The software is out there if you look hard enough. You have to look for Encore Pro 2.2 just as we did 1.8, it's not going to come looking for you!

I have talked to a couple people and a few DME's and the biggest improvement is the humidifier. It acutally senses the moisture and adjusts itself according to what you have set the machine to.

Gerry

[Patrick A]

I talked to my DME and they wanted to give me a PR one machine. Iasked for a M-Series Auto and got it. I was told by the Tech at the Sleep Center they were going to recommend a Remstar Bipap Auto SV machine, I talked to the Sleep Doctor he said I didn't have enough Central Apneas to warrant an SV machine. the DME recommended the PR one...but because I asked for an M-series Bi-pap Auto and basically insisted one they gave me what I wanted. The main reason I did not want the PR was that no software was available for it. I already have the software for th M-Series, the tech at the sleep center showed me a new PR I just didn't feel good about it.

[tiger]

Referring to the post of Patrick A, I would like to know from my friend Patrick A, as to why he felt negatively about System one PR machine. Actually I intend to buy the best machine available in the market for apnea and am, therefore, seeking valuable opinion of my friends here to evaluate the merits of Remstar Auto cpap and System one. However, no clear guideline seem to be available till now. Hopefully, friends here would guide me as to what is the clear difference, besides that humidification may be better in system one. But I am more concerned by apnea hypopnea index therapy and would see which machine of the two reduce the apenic events comparitively better than the other.

[blakepro]

I have the PR System One and I love it. There is no other machine out there that I would rather have right now. I feel better using it, and I never have problems with rainout any more.

Also, dont let the software thing stop you. Its out there, and you can find it if you really want/need it. If the software is your only reason for being hesitant, then dont be, because that problem has already been solved. And the easier to use patient version is supposedly on its way soon as well. (Even it if doesnt show up. Encore pro 2.2 works just fine.)

[el_zorro]

I have the fixed CPAP PR system one and so far so good. Its my first CPAP so Im not sure whether I should have asked my DME for an auto model. A couple of comments on the machine so far. Its is very solidly built including the humidifier. This thing is built like a tank and looks like it will last for many years, however it is pretty bulky with the humidifier and power brick. I travel a lot so this is a big deal for me. Basic information is available from the LCD screen, AHI, Leak %, Periodic Breathing and Therapy Hours. The CFLEX+ is very comfortable and I find myself putting the mask back on for naps or when I decide to sleep a couple of more hours in the morning.

The only other experience I had with CPAP was the one in the sleep lab, I dont think it had CFLEX or EPR. I do remember that once I fell asleep and in the morning I did not notice any issues with exhalation pressure. I am looking at a getting Intellipap auto model for travel and I might take a look at that software first. If I like the Auto Intellipap better I will use that machine all of the time and use the PR sytem as a backup.

Overall, I would give these machines a thumbs up. I havent got into the software yet so this doesnt bother me yet. I'm sure I will at some point but I heard that there will be software available by Spring 2010.

[Patrick A]

Referring to the post of Patrick A, I would like to know from my friend Patrick A, as to why he felt negatively about System one PR machine. Actually I intend to buy the best machine available in the market for apnea and am, therefore, seeking valuable opinion of my friends here to evaluate the merits of Remstar Auto cpap and System one. However, no clear guideline seem to be available till now. Hopefully, friends here would guide me as to what is the clear difference, besides that humidification may be better in system one. But I am more concerned by apnea hypopnea index therapy and would see which machine of the two reduce the apenic events comparitively better than the other.

[The main reason I did not want the PR was that no software was available for it. I already have the software for th M-Series, the tech at the sleep center showed me a new PR I just didn't feel good about it.
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If you read my post I stated the main reason I did not want the PR was that there was no software available for it. I thought I made that clear. I have been using my M-Series for almost 2 years now and I like it.
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