OT-SWINE FLU-How serious is the global threat?

[JoyD.]

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This is SUPPOSEDLY from a Doctor in Texas who sent this out to all of his patients.

REMOVED by JoyD. due to a questionable resource. (Thanks, Rooster)

[LinkC]

I think they should leave the pork flu for later this year and lets have the war crime trials now.

Gee, I would have thought a competent administration could handle more than one issue at a time. Apparently not.

But, you are right, that issue sure quieted down. I guess it's easier to toss around baseless accusations when you only have to "prove" them in the media, and not the courts. We've all heard the prosecution, now let's hear the defense!

[DreamStalker]

I think they should leave the pork flu for later this year and lets have the war crime trials now.

Gee, I would have thought a competent administration could handle more than one issue at a time. Apparently not.

But, you are right, that issue sure quieted down. I guess it's easier to toss around baseless accusations when you only have to "prove" them in the media, and not the courts. We've all heard the prosecution, now let's hear the defense!

There is NO defense for torturing ... but that's just me.

[LinkC]

There is NO defense for torturing ... but that's just me.

What's the point of having a trial then? You've obviously already established guilt...but that's just you, thank God!

[DreamStalker]

There is NO defense for torturing ... but that's just me.

What's the point of having a trial then? You've obviously already established guilt...but that's just you, thank God!

Well first let me just clarify that I am not a god ... and lucky for Cheny and his clown, I'm not the US attorney general either ... hence the need for the trial.

[LinkC]

let me just clarify that I am not a god

Noted. I'm glad you're clear on that now....

lucky for Cheny and his clown, I'm not the US attorney general either

I never suspected for a moment you were that, either. Unluckily for Cheney (as it's properly spelled), the current administration's pinball-machine attention span will ensure he never gets his day in court. But, back on topic, at least they are handling the "pandemic" well, in spite of the fact the US death toll has soared to...zero.

[DreamStalker]

Cheney (as it's properly spelled)

Do you realy think I care how that dick spells his name?

Wait wait ... don't tell me, you went n joined the grammer police force didn't ya ... that's why you work with government pigs right?

[LinkC]

I "realy" think that spelling and "grammer" are two very different things. And it's painfully obvious you don't care about the proper spelling of anything. How proud you must be of that!

But at least grasping at this straw has allowed you to divert attention from the original topic which wasn't going well for you. Bravo! You learned well from Osama...

Class dismissed.
Have a nice day.

[DreamStalker]

Have a nice day.

Yes sir officer Link ... I'll be more careful next time.

[roster]

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This is supposedly from a Doctor in Texas who sent this out to all of his patients. I wanted to share it with all of you.

Joy

New Braunfels, TX

"After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County and Hays County, Heather suggested I send an update to my patients in the area, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is different from what you are hearing in the media. Some of you know some of this, but I will just list what facts I know.

- The virus is infectious for about 2 days prior to symptom onset.

- Virus spreads more than 7 days after symptom onset (possibly as long as 9 days) (this is more unusual than ordinary flu)

- Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no “herd immunity,” so the “attack rate” is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost ever yone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatic. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The “clinical attack rate” estimation from CDC and WHO may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this to those outside of the medical fields.

- The virulence (deadliness) of this virus is as bad here as in Mexico, and there are folks on ventilators here in the US, right now. This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old in Houston is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life. In Mexico, these folks might have died already, but here in the US, folks are getting Tami flu or Relenza quickly, and we have ready access to ventilators. What this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.


- Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County have had more than 70 contacts before diagnosis as a minimum figure.

- There are 10-25 times more actual cases (not “possible” cases — actual), than what is being reported in the media. The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemio logical grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each “confirmed” case right now.

- During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.

- They are advising President Obama to declare an emergency sometime in the next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn’t, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days minimum.

- I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close contact that are the biggest risk.

- Tami flu is running out. There is a national stockpile, but it will have to be carefully managed for law enforcement and first responders as it is not enough to treat the likely number of infections when this is full-blown. I don’t think there is a big supply of Relenza, but I do not know those numbers. If I had to choose, I would take Relenza, as I think it gets more drug to the affected tissue than Tami flu.


- You should avoid going to the ER if you think you have been exposed or are symptomatic. ER’s south of here are becoming overwhelmed today— and I mean that — already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.

- It appears that this flu produces a distinctive “hoarseness” in many victims. The symptoms, in general, match other flu’s; namely, sore throat, body aches, headache, cough, and fever. What is not too common in regular flu cycles is vomiting and diarrhea which seems to be associated with this, further dehydrating victims. Some have all these symptoms, while others may have only one or two.

- N-Acetyl-Cysteine — a nutritional supplement available at the health food store or Wimberley Pharmacy, has been shown to prevent or lessen the severity of influenza. I suggest 1200mg, twice a day for adults, and 600mg twice a day in kids over 12. It would be hard to get kids under 12 to take it, but you could try opening the capsules and putting it on yogurt. For 40 pounds and up, 300-600 mg twice a day, for less than 40 pounds, half that.

- Oscillococinum, a homeopathic remedy, has been vindicated as quite effective in a large clinical trial in Europe, with an H1N1 variant. You can buy this at Hill Country Natural Foods, or the Wimberley Pharmacy.
I will try to keep everyone posted if I have any new information. Meanwhile, don’t be afraid, stay informed and try to avoid infection. The fewer people infected the easier it will b e for our public officials to manage it.

If any of my patients become ill, or suspect infection, call the office, do not come without calling and DO NOT go to the ER. If one member in a family is identified all would be given the Tami flu or Relenza (that is normal course of action) if there is enough distributed to fill prescriptions. Public health stated that one family member identified or suspected to have contracted the flu it will require the whole family to be ‘quarantined’ in their own home until enough time has passed for the remaining household to have contracted it or be considered infection free ( 7 to 10 days per person). As another suggestion, if any member of the family is on routine medication- fill those prescriptions now. Have plenty fluids, Motrin, soups, etc available and make contingency plans in case your family is affected.”
 

That has been debunked by http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/swineflu.asp and the doctor has denied writing it.

[Ozzy Mosis]

OMG! I think I've caught it.....I keep breaking out in RASHERS!