Remstar Bipap Auto (Tank style) question

[deerhound]

I got a used BiPap Auto and it came with the Remstar Heated Humidifier. The power brick attaches to the BiPap machine with some sort of round DIN style connector. The humidifier has a 2 prong plug-in and a jumper that is supposed to plug in to the back of the machine to power the machine. I do not think these were meant to be used together. Am I supposed to plug the humidifier into the AC cord from the wall and then plug the brick into the cable on the machine and then plug the machine in normally to the brick? The literature I can find doesn't explain this for this BiPap machine.

Thanks
Dale

[jules]

http://global.respironics.com/UserGuide ... difier.pdf

[GumbyCT]

Can you find a link on here to a machine just like yours?
I have an M series and wouldn't want to mislead you.
A tank bipap is a golden find - may I ask, how much?

Oh I would think the humidifier is AC and should be jumpered from the machine. The connector should fit in only one place, if they did it right.

GumbyCT

[rested gal]

The non-M older "tank" style BiPAP Auto (I have one ) using integrated humidifier:

Short permanent cord from humidifier plugs into the brick.

Round plug at end of the permanent long cord from the brick plugs into back of BiPAP machine.

That makes a loop from one end of the brick to the machine, and the other end of the brick to the humidifier.

A completely separate "regular" power cord plugs into base of humidifer and plugs into your house's electricity.

[deerhound]

Thanks Rested Gal that's what I was thinking but I wanted to be sure before messing something up.
Gumby some guy had a listing on eBay for a BiPap Auto carry case with a surprise inside with a buy it now of $300. I knew eBay wouldn't leave it on there very long, so I e-mailed him to see how many hours on machine . When he said only 250hrs I hit the buy button. eBay unlisted the auction 2 hrs after I bought it, so I snuck one by them. It is in really nice condition.

Dale

[Wulfman]

I got a used BiPap Auto and it came with the Remstar Heated Humidifier. The power brick attaches to the BiPap machine with some sort of round DIN style connector. The humidifier has a 2 prong plug-in and a jumper that is supposed to plug in to the back of the machine to power the machine. I do not think these were meant to be used together. Am I supposed to plug the humidifier into the AC cord from the wall and then plug the brick into the cable on the machine and then plug the machine in normally to the brick? The literature I can find doesn't explain this for this BiPap machine.

Thanks
Dale

I've been trying to figure this one out since you posted it.....cause I don't have one of those machines. I've looked at a number of manuals and finally found what I think is the solution in the manual for the Bi-PAP ST machine. According to the picture I saw, the "power brick" has the same kind of plug.....two-prong....from the input side where it gets it's power from the wall outlet/cord. Assuming that is correct, what you need to do is unplug the cord that comes INTO the power brick and plug that into the humidifier connection and then the pigtail that comes out of the humidifier INTO the power brick (where the longer cord was plugged into). This is similar to how the non-Bi-PAP machines connect, except that there is no external power brick on them.

Den

[GumbyCT]

Good Deal Dale - WTG.

I wondered when RG would answer? LOL

Plus you have the manual. assuming that is the right one.

[deerhound]

RG set me up real good when I thought I had a line on one of these locally. I just figured it all out on the electrics . The normal tank type CPAP must have the power supply in the machine since it seems they plug directly into AC. The BiPap Auto has a brick like the M series only with a different connector for the machine. There is no AC connection on the BiPap auto. So like RG said, just plug the AC cord that would normally go into
the brick into the humidifier and plug the pigtail from the humidifier into the brick. then the brick plugs into the BiPap. I noticed a sensor on the humidifier and that must be where the machine tells the humidifier how hot to get. What was really confusing me was how the machine would communicate with the humidifier if there was no power connection coming from the blower to the humidifier. I've got it now.

Thanks to everyone

Dale

[dsm]

The various Bipaps (tank style) I have, came with a special Respironics powercord that has a plug at 1 end & a 2-pin power socket at the other (you can plug one end into the other except that then goes nowhere). This cable is used between the humidifier and the power brick. That way the normal power cord goes to the H/H & the special cord goes from the short extension off the H/H which has a plug, to the power brick which has a power socket.

DSM

[deerhound]

DSM, The machine I bought didn't have a special cord to go; between the pigtail on the HH to the brick but the pigtail fits in the brick. It just means I have to find a place close to the HH for the brick to sit. The previous owner may have lost it. Not a big problem though. Thanks.
Dale

[rested gal]

The machine I bought didn't have a special cord to go; between the pigtail on the HH to the brick but the pigtail fits in the brick. It just means I have to find a place close to the HH for the brick to sit. The previous owner may have lost it. Not a big problem though.

Dale, the brand new, never-used-by-anyone-else pre-M series BiPAP Auto I bought a couple of years ago didn't have that either. Like you, I simply had to set the brick close (within pigtail distance) to the humidifier.

[nightjar]

some guy had a listing on eBay for a BiPap Auto carry case with a surprise inside with a buy it now of $300. I knew eBay wouldn't leave it on there very long, so I e-mailed him to see how many hours on machine . When he said only 250hrs I hit the buy button. eBay unlisted the auction 2 hrs after I bought it, so I snuck one by them. It is in really nice condition.

Very cool, Dale! I'll have to start keeping my eyes open for goodies like this on eBay!

Buy the way . . . that's the machine I have. Bought mine new from cpap.com just 7 weeks ago. Paid a bit more than you did, though!

nath

[dsm]

The machine I bought didn't have a special cord to go; between the pigtail on the HH to the brick but the pigtail fits in the brick. It just means I have to find a place close to the HH for the brick to sit. The previous owner may have lost it. Not a big problem though.

Dale, the brand new, never-used-by-anyone-else pre-M series BiPAP Auto I bought a couple of years ago didn't have that either. Like you, I simply had to set the brick close (within pigtail distance) to the humidifier.

Rested Gal,

Come to think of it, neither did my Bipap Auto (Biflex) have one. On digging into it, I see it came with a Bipap S/T (gray model).
Seems they were selective on which machines they shipped them with.

Cheers

DSM

[GumbyCT]

On digging into it, I see it came with a Bipap S/T (gray model).
Seems they were selective on which machines they shipped them with.

Are you saying the power cord looks like the power cord used on a computer? Those are pretty common.

[dsm]

On digging into it, I see it came with a Bipap S/T (gray model).
Seems they were selective on which machines they shipped them with.

Are you saying the power cord looks like the power cord used on a computer? Those are pretty common.

GumbyCT
It has a 2-pin (shaver style we call them) plug at one end and a 2-pin 'socket' at the other. To visualize this, consider that the plug end actually fits into the socket end. It can be described simply as a 2-pin plug type extension cord. So a normal cpap power cord of this type, has a 'plug' at each end being a 2-pin plug at one end, US 120 VAC plug at the other.

This allows the normal power cord (US 120 V plug at one end & 2-pin plug at the other) to be plugged into the H/H. Then you plug the short lead coming out of the H/H into the 'socket' end of this special cable and the 2-pin plug end gets plugged into the brick power pack.

Come to think of it, it is simpler to just buy two power cords & plug 1 into the brick & the other into the H/H & ignore the short lead coming out of the H/H.

DSM